Taming the Bulletproof Wookie...

[Expendable Hero]

An answer I have been toying with to challange characters who rely on a high strength instead of dodge was simply to have a +1 damage increase each time they are hit. This means the first time you get hit roll strength for hit vs strenght for resist. Next time str +1 vs str next time str +2 ect. This idea is from watching a boxing match the other day. At first they where wailing on each other but not really doing any real damage. By the end of the fight they had worn each other down enought that even though neither one was swinging as hard they where both having a hard time staying standing.
I feel this allows for a balance between dodgers and the bricks. If you can end the fight quickly the bricks have a slight advantage because they don't have to split skills. However in a long fight not even a wookie will be able to keep standing if they get hit to many times. This allows a fines boxer to take on and beat a strenght boxer. I Havn't had a chance to play test it yet though so I'm not shure how it would work out. The group I'm with right now is really new and I just want to stick to the basics.

*edit for spelling*

[Effex Seven]

[baran_i_kanu]

hey guys.

i've lurked here a while and run a couple of SW games.
indeed the first game i ran i encountered a wook player taking a lot of damage and shrugging it off. a disgusting amount of damage.

i've decide to house rule a bit.
first up is the classic D6 house rule of result points for attacks.
for mine it is every five points over the target number results in one extra point of damage.
not a lot of extra but every bit counts.
i had originally decided on +1D per five points but i think that's too lethal.
i might bump it up to two points later one. hmmm....

i'm also using the often beloved called shots.
mine is keeping it simple: +1D difficulty for +1D bonus dmg.
shot to face, heart, throat, groin, vitals, etc.


i'm also thinking about using body points for characters, aliens, and creatures but i'll wait and see on that.


later,

dave

[Expendable Hero]

You could always make them do an alien species roll or something for creatures of another race to do a called shot. that would give knowledge more power to combat players and make it less of a dump stat. Obviously this would be modified by how alien there body is compared to what there used to. The exception might be humans who are familiar to almost everyone because there are just so many.

[garhkal]

[Rerun941]

[Esoomian]

[atgxtg]

From hat I've seen, the "bulletproof" Wookiee, isn't.

Most Blasters do 4D or 5D and even a Wookiee with a 6D STR can get beaten out on the damage roll.

I learned this the hard way long ago. My 6d STR Wookie got caught in the outer Blast Radius of a grenade, and took 2D damage. Hah! 2D what a laught, right.

Nope. FOr starters the GM rolled a string of sixes, including on the wild die, so that wimpy 2D damage ended up at around 30 points. Then I rolled a 1 on the wild die, and got stuck with an appalling low soak roll (below 10). I ended up burning all my character points just to get to "mortally wounded". And that was only because the GM let us spend dice for our soak roll after the damage roll. I sat out the rest of the adventure while my Wookiee was treated with a medpac and rushed into a bacta tank.

The next result? My character realized that Wookies were not grenade proof, and that he needed to use cover and dodge like everyone else or he would quickly discover that he wasn't blaster proof either.

Just have a sqaud of stromtroopers focus on the "invulnerable" Wookiee once or twice, and let the wild die do it thing. Within a week or two the Wookiee will be diving behind cover like everyone else.

[Ankhanu]

I've never had issues with very strong characters being immune to damage. Mind you, as a GM I roll very well (and as a player I roll terribly) I really see no reason to change the damage rolls... though I have thought about implementing the <0 damage resulting in a stun rule in my games... though only have those 0+ count towards falling unconscious. No matter what, if you're hit, it's going to hurt and distract you.
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[ZzaphodD]

[cunning_kindred]

The problem with the wookiee isn't that you can't hurt him. There is aways going to be a bigger gun. The problem is that any gun capable of hurting a 6D wookiee on a regular basis is going to be killing or knocking out your other players with one hit almost all the time.

In our game we fixed this with a simple rule. Everyone soaks with 2D. Armour doesn't add to strength, it replaces the base 2D for soaking. Essentially all armour has dice codes equal to what they have RAW but with an extra 2D.

This cleaned up so many problems with the rules in one sweep. We never understood how going to the gym allowed you to resist being sliced up with high energy plasma or being cut in two with what amounts to an energy beam. Such things don't care how much of you there is or how much fat or muscle you have or how much bone for that matter. They care only what you are made of and 99% of life forms are made of carbon, nitrogen and oxygen in various combinations - strength has nothing to do with it.

So 2D to soak everything. Problem solved. Wookiees get one extra wound level in our game to make up for it, as do a lot of the really big races. Oh, and to balance it out, melee weapons and the like do straight damage just like blasters. Again, high energy plasma bolts are more lethal than a sword regardless of your strength - that last part is probably going to be way too radical for most but the 2D to soak everything is very effective (and deadly )

[bobenhotep]

you could do a rule that blunt weapons (fists, feet , sticks) and stun attacks (stun blasts, concussion weapons) are resisted normally, but blasters, bullets, knives etc are resisted at -1D. this weakens the wookie's defenses to 4D, where a STR 3D character with a knife could feasibly stop him. blaster rifles would be scary to him, and pistols wouldn't be anything to sneeze at. this would make a character with 2d strength very leery about being shot (1d to resist). an average blaster pistol attack would incapacitate him. a rifle would mortally wound him, and a repeater would have a good chance of killing him.
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[jmanski]

[atgxtg]

[jmanski]

Or non-vital hits. But agreed- a shot to the heart kills anyone.
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