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werelyn Cadet
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: Absorb/Dissipate vs. Light Sabers? |
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I run a 2ed RE Star Wars game and one of my players is adamant that absorb/dissipate can be used to resist light saber damage.
The book does not explicitly allow or disallow this, so I'm looking for some feedback.
I'm inclined to say no because there are already many ways that a Jedi can resist damage from a light saber. However, I want my game to be internally consistent, and since a light saber is technically an energy weapon, the power should be applicable.
Thoughts? |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well... absorb/dissipate energy doesn't really help you resist the damage as such. It's one of those things that's an all or nothing deal. If you manage to absorb the energy, then you manage to absorb it all. If you fail your roll, then you just attempted to catch a lightsaber in your hand, and lost it and everything else in the lightsaber's path. I say let him try with a GM warning that this is not a good idea. If he fumbles his roll, and the character dies, then what can you say? You warned him. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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Esoomian High Admiral
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 6207 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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In one of the Star Wars books (sadly I forget which one) there is an example of this power being used in this way Corran Horn's ancestor used this power (or one very much like it) to drain all the energy from a lightsaber effectively disarming an opponant.
It didn't prevent enough damage to stop him dying however. _________________ Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.
Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Big thing i can see here, is would it also absorb the additional damage from the control addition if they have LS combat up, OR just the base damage of the lightsaber. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Damage is damage. If control is added to your damage roll, then you might be trying to absorb 8D, 9D, or 12D of damage. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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ZzaphodD Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Isnt the base difficulty Moderate, lets say an average 13. On top of that is the damage roll, lets say an even 35 for 10D damage. Just roll 48+ on your C/D Energy test and youll be fine... |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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I hope someone has banked a lot of Force points. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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bobenhotep Commander
Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 333 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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way too much morphy can happen on that one _________________ D&D 5e DM and WEG Star Wars GM for two kids who will hopefully carry on with RPGs for years to come
The Chijawa said so, that's why. |
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Raven Redstar Rear Admiral
Joined: 10 Mar 2009 Posts: 2648 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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I could see a master doing it against an apprentice for training. You've got someone with something like 13D control rolling vs someone with 2-3D, shouldn't be that bad. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Let's pray the master doesn't roll a 6 on the Wild Die, while the apprentice rolls a 1.
"Crap. I loose more apprentices that way. Okay, next in line!" _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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Raven Redstar Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I meant the master soaking, besides, you can also drop damage with lightsaber combat, so a master can drop the damage to 1D, either way it works. |
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werelyn Cadet
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the insights guys. I think I'm going to allow it, just to see what happens if or when it doesn't work... |
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cunning_kindred Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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I actually had a character do this in one my stories. It came out of the blue. He was facing off against the big bad of the game and he suddenly just said he was going to try to absorb the blade. It worked... amazingly (the difficulty was astronomical, although he was spending a Force Point).
The rather goofy expression on my own face was taken by all to be the Grand Inquisitor's expression when her blade went off. There was much amusement. I ruled that it had absorbed only the energy in the blade at the time and shorted the weapon*. She could just turn it back on again with her action but it gave the player the vital moments he needed and turned the tide of battle. It was very cool and the player in question still boasts about the time he successfully absorbed all the energy from the Grand Inquisitor's lightsaber.
*I would say that you would need something a little more powerful to actually drain the power cells on the lightsaber though. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14215 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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I saw it attempted in another game i was a stick jocky for the group (L-19 freighter), but the guy bombed the roll and got sliced in half. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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atgxtg Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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The coll thing about this is that abuse seems unlikely, considering what happens when the character fails.
I rather try to disarm the opponent with Telekensis. If I;m going to play a longshot, thn I might as well play one that will protect me from be sliced in future rounds. Besides, then I can use the lightsaber to defend myself. |
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