Here's a good one:"Sell me on Playing" says player

[TheEvilDM]

So 95% of the group is down with playing D6 SW. Except for this one jerk who will not play. He loves the movies and the novels, but his stance to me is

"well unless you play a jedi, its not worth playing. All the other types (he said classes) suck."

So I said there is plenty of things other characters can do that a Jedi can't. Sure a Jedi is powerful, but can he pick a lock? Can he smooth talk that chick for the information the group needs? Can he track that run away prisoner you have to bring back?

Just wondering if anyone has run into a player like this and what did you say to "sell the game" to them.

Thanks!

Lord Nikon
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[Raven Redstar]

It's for these reasons that I generally don't do mixed groups. I either do all jedi or no jedi. In a group of all non-jedi, no one sucks cause everyone doesn't have the force. With these types of situations, I try to sell the story rather than a particular class or role.

Also, I would bring up that Han Solo doesn't suck, he doesn't have a lick of force sensitivity. Han is a bad@ss, he's an awesome pilot, an awesome shot, and an all around smooth talking scoundrel.

I have in my experience, had players who insisted on playing a Sith in a group of all Jedi. *shudders at the memory*

It didn't end well, but the player only ever wanted to play the same thing in every RPG. He wanted to play a wizard who threw death. Jedi don't normally do that, so he wasn't interested in the game. I let him play his Sith, and all he ended up doing was irritating everyone at the gaming table. In his initial encounter the veteran player who'd been playing her character for some time ended up cutting off his hand shortly after they met.

The moral of the story is: There are some players not worth selling the game to.
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[cheshire]

Mostly I've done all Jedi or no Jedi. So I can't speak as to what it's like running mixed groups. But anyone who says "anything but Jedi suck" has never played a fringe campaign.

Look, I'm going to be writing a small fringe campaign, and I'm hoping to have the first draft in a couple of weeks. If you want a sneak preview, I can send it along. Tell them that you'll do just a short introductory campaign and call it quits after that. If you can get the jerk to agree, then he's only in for four sessions. If he still doesn't like it, then at least there's a terminus in sight.
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

[TheEvilDM]

[Fallon Kell]

[Raven Redstar]

LOL!

Thanks for that Fallon. It almost got rid of the horrid memories.
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[Bren]

[TheEvilDM]

[Raven Redstar]

He's in for a big surprise. Starting Jedi in D6 get hammered on, because they lose attribute dice for the force. They start out weaker and eventually shine. There is much delayed gratification.

My only character that has every outright died was a starting Jedi. First campaign. He took a blaster bolt to the chest and that was it. No lightsaber combat, no armor, not a high enough dodge. Toast.
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[TheEvilDM]

[CRMcNeill]

[TheEvilDM]

[Fallon Kell]

[Zarm R'keeg]

Egads. Sounds like a loot/power-grab type player- one only insterested in playing for what he can accumulate (a very video game mentality vs. a 'play the role' roleplaying mentality.) If you figure out a way to sell him, let me know- I'd like to try to wean my two 'in it for the acquisitions' players with it. : wink :

One thing that other players can do that a Jedi can't is 'not be an intellectually dishonest, hypocritical, deus-ex-machina superpowered overly-used, overly-explored, sick-to-death-of-their-sanctimonius-self-righteous-arrogant-faces annoying stock character'- but then, Jedi portrayed the OT way instead of the Prequel way can acheive that, too.
Still, a kernel of seriousness amid the snark- just like in the Prequel films, Fan Films, and numerous other areas, the other 99.9% of the galaxy are incredibly underexplored (minus the exploration that WEG has done, of course!) Jedi are largely all the same, well-explored, well-known, and these days, all of largely the same stoic persona. Playing as another character offers an opportunity to explore and portray character types, parts of the galaxy, situations, and archetypes unexplored in the films and even in many of the books- a chance to delve deeper, with characters that themselves tend to be deeper than their Jedi counterparts- that may be a selling point, depending on the individual's personality.

[Bren]