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In our last game, my players had an epic battle with a Dark Jedi aboard their starship. On a roll of a 1, I had the lightsaber go flying out of his hand, and it slid to a stop in an adjacent cargo hold. One PC decided to blast the lightsaber.
What sort of body strength do you think a lightsaber should have? The typical 2D of most hand weapons?
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Since it's supposed to be hand made by the jedi wielding it, i'd give it 3d, IF Attuned.. 2d otherwise.
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I would also go with a 3D for the Attuned and made by wielder lightsaber body strength.
i would also add pips accordingly with some of the lightsabers that are constructed with special and durable materials.
I would palaptine's electrum (coated?) lightsabers a +1 to body strength as an example
then I would go with size as well with a double and large slightsaber possibly be 4D and 3D respectively and shoto and the smaller lghtsabers 2D and 1D respectively |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Body Strength of a Lightsaber |
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| DougRed4 wrote: | In our last game, my players had an epic battle with a Dark Jedi aboard their starship. On a roll of a 1, I had the lightsaber go flying out of his hand, and it slid to a stop in an adjacent cargo hold. One PC decided to blast the lightsaber.
What sort of body strength do you think a lightsaber should have? The typical 2D of most hand weapons? |
Unless it’s specifically hardened against damage, I’d stick to the 2D from the RAW. However, its small size provides an additional layer of protection, in that it’s a lot harder to hit. Under the RAW, you’d use the Called Shot rules; if you’re looking for a house rule alternative, a lightsaber would be Tiny-Scale (-4D) in my Scale System.
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IIRC tiny is for things 10cm or under. Most light sabers seem to be around 7 to 10 inches in length.
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| garhkal wrote: | | IIRC tiny is for things 10cm or under. Most light sabers seem to be around 7 to 10 inches in length. |
Under my system, Tiny covers large hand-held objects, such as blaster pistols, data pads, and some tools. Smaller objects like comlinks, a deck of cards, data chips or hold-out blasters would be Minute-Scale (-6D).
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| Whill wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | IIRC tiny is for things 10cm or under. Most light sabers seem to be around 7 to 10 inches in length. |
For some reason, the mixed measurement systems in this post nerd-rages me.
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If only we could keep measurements in the forum to the tried and true "Bigger than a Bread Box" standards.
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| KageRyu wrote: | | Whill wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | IIRC tiny is for things 10cm or under. Most light sabers seem to be around 7 to 10 inches in length. |
For some reason, the mixed measurement systems in this post nerd-rages me.
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If only we could keep measurements in the forum to the tried and true "Bigger than a Bread Box" standards.
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I thought it was a Gopher hole, not a rabbit one..
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Gone down a Porg hole, the padawan has...
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| Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Body Strength of a Lightsaber + Engineering! |
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| garhkal wrote: | | Since it's supposed to be hand made by the jedi wielding it, i'd give it 3d, IF Attuned.. 2d otherwise. |
I don't think Attunement would affect that...
| Mamatried wrote: | I would also go with a 3D for the Attuned and made by wielder lightsaber body strength.
i would also add pips accordingly with some of the lightsabers that are constructed with special and durable materials.
I would palaptine's electrum (coated?) lightsabers a +1 to body strength as an example
then I would go with size as well with a double and large slightsaber possibly be 4D and 3D respectively and shoto and the smaller lghtsabers 2D and 1D respectively |
Um, no. Electrum is an alloy of two of the softest, least durable metals, Gold & Silver, which as i recall are Hardness 3 on the Mohs scale.
Electrum is decorative, mainly used in jewelry/bling, & art objects.
Durasteel might be up to 3 or 4D, but if using Phrik or Beskar, 5D to 6D max.
Tungsten Carbide or Diamond for hardest real-world materials, or Bronzium for SW in-universe materials; look up any armor in SW to see what it's made of. There's no shortage of durable materials to choose from.
Lightsabers of any type are high-quality construction, so should have Body Str 2D minimum. Ancient/Archaic Lightsabers, proto-sabers & Light Foils might be more fragile at a mere 1D.
| CRMcNeill wrote: | | DougRed4 wrote: | In our last game, my players had an epic battle with a Dark Jedi aboard their starship. On a roll of a 1, I had the lightsaber go flying out of his hand, and it slid to a stop in an adjacent cargo hold. One PC decided to blast the lightsaber.
What sort of body strength do you think a lightsaber should have? The typical 2D of most hand weapons? |
Unless it’s specifically hardened against damage, I’d stick to the 2D from the RAW. However, its small size provides an additional layer of protection, in that it’s a lot harder to hit. Under the RAW, you’d use the Called Shot rules; if you’re looking for a house rule alternative, a lightsaber would be Tiny-Scale (-4D) in my Scale System. |
THIS.
| Whill wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | IIRC tiny is for things 10cm or under. Most light sabers seem to be around 7 to 10 inches in length. |
For some reason, the mixed measurement systems in this post nerd-rages me.
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10 cm = 3 15/16in
7 in = 17.8 cm
10 in = 25.4 cm
12 in = ≈30.5 cm
20 in = 50.8 cm
24 in = ≈61.0 cm
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2d body is what i've seen listed for most items.. Other than things like blast doors..
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| garhkal wrote: | | 2d body is what i've seen listed for most items.. Other than things like blast doors.. |
2D has an average roll of 7, and 7 seems to equate to average/ordinary in this game. As a house rule, hold-out blasters average 1D, and slugthrowers average 3D. These stats come from personal spreadsheet analysis of weapon costs.
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