grapple - martial arts grapple - and encryption

[tetsuoh]

Does the grapple from the core book allow others to take actions other than break free?

what about the martial arts version from rebel handbook?

why oh WHY is encryption a skill and yet ALL tools to add in doing so are specific to the target to be encrypted/decrypted. IE Droid Prog/Repair, Comp Prog/Repair, or just Plain old Security???

what on earth am I to tell my poor slicer? I had forgotten about this MESS until I started a new campaign two days ago.

[Zarn]

[cheshire]

Could you give me some additional reference by listing where Encryption is listed as a skill. I don't remember it as being one of the R&E base skills. Or is it a specialization of a skill?
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[tetsuoh]

Jedi Academy Handbook

We rolled ALL Encyptions and Slicing Rolls into Security

[garhkal]

I'd see encryption being a specialty of Comms not security, since that deals with physical locks, whether mechanical or electronic.
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[jmanski]

Communication or Computer Programming
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[garhkal]

Other than for password breaking, i don't see much encrypt/decrypt for computers.
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[Random_Axe]

Encryption is definitely related to communications (a TEC skill). Security is specifically about breaking into physically locked things (As in the Aliens movie: "Hudson! Run a bypass!").

[garhkal]

Yup. Comms is short hand for communications. Computer short hand is comp.
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[vulture811]

so back to grappling, can you use your martial arts skill to grapple without the grapple maneuver ?

[garhkal]

If you don't have the m.art maneuver, it would default to a brawl form of grapple, which may not be as good.
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[jmanski]

But can you use it at a penalty or a higher difficulty? I've wondered that myself. Why can't a character try a jumping kick, after all?
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[klhaviation]

We are running into this problem with the 3rd ed rules.

I would keep it simple, make any brawling "maneuvers" 2 Difficulties Higher than it would be with trained (A) Martial Arts. For instance Grapple would then require a Very Difficult brawling skill roll, opposed by brawling parry. If successful, the target must beat the holder in an opposed Strength check to break free.

The 2 Difficulty Levels higher is derived from how the RAW defines using computer programming/repair in lieu of (A) droid engineering, in the droid modification and creation rules. It seems to be an approximate benchmark for using a non-advanced skill in lieu of an advanced skill. Of, course this is based on a case-by-case basis, and at the GM discretion.

This could be used for a few other maneuvers like Foot Sweep, Head-Butt, and Disarm. Others would be inappropriate like Flying Kick.

Note too that one should be cautious about allowing too many tricks using brawling, let your players know that a complication may result in a broken hand or worse. A failed opposed Strength roll during a grapple could quickly turn into a vibrodagger in the gut at close quarters.

[garhkal]