Would I get a Dark Side Point?

[Draylo Star]

I want to create a thread so people when they are unsure if an action would get them a darkside point, people on here can tell them if they believe there action would cause a DSP or not

[Draylo Star]

#1 If im fighting someone in hand to hand combat and I use my TK to do more damage to the person than just my fists would I get a DSP?

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#2 What if I kill someone using Lightsabre Combat?

[Random Numbers]

1. Yes

2. If he/she is unarmed, unclothed or pretty.
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[Draylo Star]

What is the differnce if im using the force to do extra damage why are they not the same?

LSC is giving me bonus damage and im using My TK for bonus damage

[cheshire]

The reason why is because the purists say so. Really, trying to figure out exactly why using the Force provides a DSP when harming people in any way other than through a lightsaber can be somewhat of a mystery. I've seen a number of justifications, but it's never been 100% clear. The RAW state that even using a CP to do extra damage is generally considered DSP worthy. The general way the game is written is that lightsabers are it. If you want to houserule it, great. But I usually go with LSC only, and why is a metaphysical mystery of the force.
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[Rerun941]

Everyone who plays a Jedi should read the 2nd Ed R&E Rulebook, pgs 137-139. There is some wonderful guidance about the Force, The Jedi Code, the Dark Side and the use of power.

Here's an excerpt from page 139:
"Sometimes it is necessary to kill. The Jedi may kill in self-defense or in defense of others, especially the weak and the good. The Jedi may kill, if by her action she preserves the existence of life. However, the Jedi must never forget that killing is inherently wrong. The death is a stain upon the Jedi's spirit.
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The Responsible Use of Power. A Jedi acts from wisdom, using persuasion and counsel over violence and Force powers. Force powers are to be used to serve the interests of the light. Using the Force for personal aggrandizement, for personal power or wealth, for convenience when other means would be more prudent — all of these traits are of the dark side."

In my opinion, if you have to ask the question ("Would I get a DSP?") then the answer is almost invariably "yes"
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[Draylo Star]

But what if im fighting a dark sider and I dont have my light sabre and the only way I can incapassitate him is to hit him really hard with my fist and using the force to swing my fist harder to save lots of peoples lives

What im saying is that with this one and alot of other things it shouldnt be cut n dry who gets a DSP

[cheshire]

[Draylo Star]

Yeah I guess

Just watching newer movies reading comics, books and playing the video games has scewed what I think deserves a Darkside point

[Rerun941]

[garhkal]

[atgxtg]

I think the reason why TK Injure?kill grants a DSP automatically is mostly becuase a Jedi has to consciously get into wanting to kill that person.

With a lightsaber duel, it is most likely a matter of defense. The Jedi is either protecting himself or ohers from what would happen if he didn't stop the opponent.

However, IF the circumstances warranted it, a GM might not assign a DSP to a character if using such a power could be justified. But such justifications would require that killing the foe was the only viable solution available to the character, AND that the consequences of not using the power were terrible.

For example, Luke "gets away" with using the Force to destroy the Death Star, killing thousands of people, many of who were probably innocent, or misguided rather than evil. But the Death Star was a weapon that was being used to kill millions of people, so Luke course of action was justified.