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ZzaphodD
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 Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: Yuzan-Vong 'crossbreeds' |
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I just want some input regarding the following idea.
The Empire has eliminated a vanguard or scouting force of Yuzan-Vong, catching a few individuals. They do not understand that they are a scouting party for a invasion that is to come years in the future, but do discover their 'weird' characteristic. Yuzan does not 'exist in the force' afaik.
Seeing their potential as Jedi-assassins the Emperor creates a secret project that creates 'crossbreeds' by using gene-splicing and clone technology. These clone Human/Yuzan crossbreeds also do not exist in the force, or at least to a minimal degree (making force users who have not encountered one almost blind to their presence). They will be percieved as a faint 'echo' in the force, detectable but if you dont know how to interpret the echo it will most of the time be to late. They would also look like humans with som yuzan appearance (ie unknown near-humans).
I got the idea from a discussion with Esoomian about converting 40K assassins, namely the Culexus assassins. |
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Esoomian
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I still prefer the idea of the assasins being wounds in the force as the Culexus assasin is supposed to drain the life out of psychics (read Jedi in this universe) but the idea is not without merit. It could also be the result of an advanced form of the sever force power.
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ZzaphodD
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Esoomian wrote: | | I still prefer the idea of the assasins being wounds in the force as the Culexus assasin is supposed to drain the life out of psychics (read Jedi in this universe) but the idea is not without merit. It could also be the result of an advanced form of the sever force power. |
Well the 'Wound' idea is not without merit but it needs to be fleshed out.
Reading on the cataclysmic ways that Wounds in the Force are created, how should this come to be in an individual?
If we go more heavily on the 40k background then they are individuals with a very rare gene (one individual per planet per generation is mentioned). They do not have any presence in the Force, and indeed radiates a sense of unnaturalness and unease that is uncomfortable to living creatures and can be painful or even lethal to force sensitive beings such as Jedi. This aura means that many die young as it turns other living being against them.
This makes them more 'normal' in the sense that they are humans, but weirder in the sense that they affect especially force users. However, given the power of Jedis, this effect better be rather powerful. Otherwise being invisible in the force is a safer bet. |
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garhkal
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From what we know of the vong, they kill themselves before they let themselves be captured.. so i would like to know how they were taken, AND Kept captive..
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| garhkal wrote: | | From what we know of the vong, they kill themselves before they let themselves be captured.. so i would like to know how they were taken, AND Kept captive.. |
To start with, HOW do they kill themselves? Cant they be knocked unconscious? I cant say Im a Vong specialist as my campaign runs at the beginning of the Rebellion Era. |
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Esoomian
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| ZzaphodD wrote: | Well the 'Wound' idea is not without merit but it needs to be fleshed out.
Reading on the cataclysmic ways that Wounds in the Force are created, how should this come to be in an individual? |
The page actually mentions some individuals that are force wounds so I suspect spending a lot of time near a force wound would change you
| ZzaphodD wrote: | | If we go more heavily on the 40k background then they are individuals with a very rare gene (one individual per planet per generation is mentioned). |
Indeed the rare pariah gene implanted by the necrons to help combat the psychically attuned races. However if the Empire discovered an area which would transform a percentage of people imprisioned near it (say 10% survive as living wounds and the rest just die) then it becomes viable.
| ZzaphodD wrote: | | They do not have any presence in the Force, and indeed radiates a sense of unnaturalness and unease that is uncomfortable to living creatures and can be painful or even lethal to force sensitive beings such as Jedi. This aura means that many die young as it turns other living being against them. |
Yes I was thinking the aura of wrongness would cause a penalty to the perception stat of those nearby, making everyone generally uneasy. Not a good survival trait for those to come by it 'naturally' (like those who live close to a wound without knowing it)
| ZzaphodD wrote: | | This makes them more 'normal' in the sense that they are humans, but weirder in the sense that they affect especially force users. However, given the power of Jedis, this effect better be rather powerful. Otherwise being invisible in the force is a safer bet. |
I'd be tending to give them more anti-force powers than just invisibility. I'd give them the ability to absorb direct force powers for a start.
| ZzaphodD wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | From what we know of the vong, they kill themselves before they let themselves be captured.. so i would like to know how they were taken, AND Kept captive.. |
To start with, HOW do they kill themselves? Cant they be knocked unconscious? I cant say Im a Vong specialist as my campaign runs at the beginning of the Rebellion Era. |
They have suicide poisons and built in claws that they can use to slash their own throats. However a crashed craft could have yeilded some comatose vong and even dead vong can be cloned.
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