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enderandrew Sub-Lieutenant
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 68 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: Broken Rules |
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Which official rules do you disagree with?
I've never been crazy about how scale rules are handled. I thought the MAP rules were broken.
I'm considering going to pick up D6 Space because there are new scale rules, a variation of hit points (which I'm not sure if I would want or not), and some other changes.
However, apparently West End was just sold, not to mention that they don't have the Star Wars license. So I'm not sure if I'm going to go buy the book just to see one variation on scale rules when I can likely just make my own at this point.
I'm curious what rules people don't like. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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cheshire Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 4855
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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For the record, WEG hasn't been sold yet, and it's likely that it won't be. Eric Gibson is regrouping and trying to relaunch the company's products.
However, I think that you're right in saying that buying a book for scale rules is a bit foolhardy. Especially because the D6 Space book wasn't really much to get excited about in the first place. _________________ __________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
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Grimace Captain
Joined: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 729 Location: Montana; Big Sky Country
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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And heck, we could probably explain the scale rules better. Plus, kinda going along with the "house rules" I mentioned in another thread, I've got my own set of scales that actually melds all three systems together, and expands the number of scales available.
So there are certainly other options out there. But if you really want the D6 Space book....get it. Just realize that if you get that and maybe the D6 Spaceships book, you're going to have some scale inconsistancies. I was talking with cheshire about that just today. So even if you get those books, you'll have some work cut out for you.
For the record, though, the "modifier" version of scaling in the new D6 core books is actually pretty sound. It's just their scales that they apply to things that come out inconsistant. In my opinion, the best method of scaling is still the Die Cap method, followed by the newer "static modifier" version from the new core books, and the "added dice" method of 2nd R&E coming in last. I know others disagree, that's why I came up with a method to meld all of them so people can use whichever version they want. |
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enderandrew Sub-Lieutenant
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 68 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Scale is one of the most broke core mechanics. I didn't suggest an improvement because I haven't read the D6 Space one, nor do I know exactly how the best way to handle it is.
If you have a really good suggestion for how to handle scale, I'd love to hear it. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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Sabre Lieutenant
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:43 am Post subject: |
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I don't like training time.
There's enough to keep track of in a game without taking a time out to calculate how many hours a character has free to train. Keeping track of it on paper is also a chore. In-game, it disrupts the flow of the session. Before or after the game, it's just more book keeping.
I can't recall playing in a game where the GM used the training time rules from the book. Many (like me) write their own rule for slowing down skill growth. Others both ignore the rule and then don't replace it, and then whine on message boards about how many dice their players are rolling. |
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enderandrew Sub-Lieutenant
Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 68 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:04 am Post subject: |
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In all honesty, I've never utilized it personally. The GM could utilize training time as a means to slow down a character who wants to put all their points in one skill. But I've never really had to enforce training time limits. _________________ Nihilism makes me smile. |
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Lostboy Commander
Joined: 22 Aug 2008 Posts: 384
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Travel time in hyperspace can be great for training. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14226 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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I have always used training times for skills they did not actively use in a gaming session... _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | I have always used training times for skills they did not actively use in a gaming session... |
Same. And as Lostboy suggested, travel time is a useful training device. Skills that are actively used in the game sessions prior to being increased, I treat their usages as training/practice. _________________ Hotaru no Hishou; a messageboard about games, friends and nothing at all.
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