improvised thrown weapons

[Lancil]

How much damage would one of these do?
For example, if an Esoomian picked up a rock and threw it what would the damage be?
I was thinking like str+1. Do you all think it would have a max like 5 or 6d.
What if it isn't a rock what if it is a 5" diameter turret bearing (basically a steel ball)?
Thanks

[ZzaphodD]

Hard to make any easy rules for this. It depends on the size of the rock really. Considering that a Blaster Pistol do 4D of damage one should keep the damage of a 'rock' rather low I assume. STR+1 seems to high, then a really strong human would on average cause more damage throwing rocks than shooting a pistol..
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[Esoomian]

I can think of at least one example where a single rock felled a gaint :p

Strength +1 is probably fine given that the range for a thrown rock is probably going to max out at 10 or less and a blaster pistol is going to have a range of somewhere around three times that, also it would be considerably easier to fire multiple shots with a blaster than it would be to have a bag of rocks and throw them in quick succession.

A boulder on the other hand...

Actually if I recall correctly boulders are thrown using the grenade skill because you lob them at the target hoping to crush them rather than 'pitching' them.
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[Esoomian]

Well the bounty hunter would have to be very close, wielding a pistol less damaging than a standard heavy blaster pistol and have a strength of 4D or better (with or without power amour) for this to increase his threat rating. Even then most amour provides greater protection against physical damage than it does against energy damage.
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[Lancil]

well i am thinking of making an Esoomian for an upcoming game. And since I don't think an Esoomian can use a standard blaster, because of the shape of his hands, perhaps he could throw something instead. Like turret bearings.

Do you have any suggestions Esoomian?

[garhkal]

just be prepared to have all the enemies target you to take you out quicker and enemies put in game to 'challenge you' being more than sufficient to wipe out the rest of the party.
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[Bobmalooga]

in my game, no matter what the size of the improvised weapon, it does Str+2 pips. Improvised weapons aren't of course intended to be weapons hence them doing very little damage. My cousin who played a Wookiee in the last game picked someone up to throw him at an advancing stormtrooper and was made to make a thrown weapons roll and then 6D+2 damage. He was more made about only getting +2 on the damage than having 2D+2 in thrown weapons.

Keith
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[Bren]

This sounds like a variation of the similar conversation on unarmed combat damage verses melee weapon damage.

http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3091&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
That part of the thread started after ZzaphodD's comment at
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:30 pm

It is a basic feature of Star Wars D6 that unarmed damage by strong and very strong attackers does as much or more damage than blasters. One can like it, hate it, whatever, but it is part of the basic rules design.

That being said, if the Esoomian can find a big enough rock to throw STR+1 sounds fine for damage. But just because an Esoomian is horrendously strong it doesn't necessarily follow that he can throw a small rock at bullet-like high velocity as opposed to throwing a massive boulder at a lower velocity. If we look at the damage done by heavy character scale weapons they tend to top out around 7D for the rancor whacking Exotac Arms EXP-7(a) Predator Blaster Rifle. Comparing non-energy weapons such as the Kashyyyk Long Gun at 6D+2, Adostic Arms
8-Guage Shotgun at 5D, Arachnica EMRG-50 Electromagnetic Rail Gun at 5D, and various rocket launchers at 6D, it seems like anything over STR+1 would be excessive. For a non D6 example, iir Chaosium's Pendragon used Damage/2 for bow (and I think thrown rock or sling) damage. Character Damage was around 4D to 6D and character hits were effectively in a similar range.

[atgxtg]

I think what we need is a cap on damage the way melee weapons have a cap.

Considering how D6 works, I'd probably cap rock damage useing a log progression. Say +2D ever time you increase the mass by a factor of 10.

1kg 2D
10kg 4D
100kg 6D

That way, Wookiees couldn't throw marbles that hit like rifle bullets.

[Bren]

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[atgxtg]

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[ZzaphodD]