Help! House rule for dodging

[Madwand]

I need some help. My DM has a house rule that all dodges are re-rolled for every attack, with a cumulative -1d6 multiple action penalty. He believes that this helps out the PCs by allowing them to spam multiple attacks more easily, beating difficult fights like, say a Rancor. He's right about that but... I'm really concerned that this will make combat much more deadly, especially as I have a PC that relies on dodging to survive, and I fly around in a starfighter-scale ship alot. My DM has thrown more than one capital ship against me in the past and I'm concerned the next one will be certain to kill me immediately (given their many possible attacks will quickly erode my +6d6 scale dodge bonus).

Has anyone had an experience with this house rule before? How did it turn out? Is there anything I can say to explain how this might be a bad idea? Everything I've tried has failed.

[garhkal]

I have used it in the past, and though it did make combat deadlier, it was more deadlier on the Enemies of the PC's than it was the pcs side from the 23 sessions our little impromtu group on ship saw. WE had almost 3 dozen combats on the ground and just over a dozen in space during that time, and only 7 pc deaths...
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[Madwand]

ONLY "7 deaths"? Wow. Yeah. I get pretty upset with just ONE. I can't enjoy a game unless I can get attached to a PC.

We ran an example combat with "Luke" with 12D lightsabre combat against 6 stormtroopers (4D blasters). Luke died from the 2nd trooper.

"He got lucky" was the DMs response. Yeah, he did, but it wouldn't have changed the result of the combat.

[Hellcat]

According to the R&E in the example on page 90, if you have multiple characters, PCs or NPCs, attacking a particular character in a round then they roll against that characters appropriate reaction roll that only has to be rolled once. . In the example given, three stormies are attacking Thannik, two at close range so they have to make an Easy skill check of 6 and 8 and one at long range so they have to make a Difficult skill check of 17. Thannik rolls a 14 on his dodge roll, so they must all roll at least 14 to hit him.

Now if all you're doing is reacting you shouldn't have to have an MAP, although it is up to the GM how they want to play it. If you're firing back and reacting to incoming fire, then you should have an MAP. Again, it's up to the GM how they want to play it.
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[garhkal]

[Lostboy]

Page 90 of the main rulebook has a small blue tab in the combat section. The first line reads "COMBAT IS DANGEROUS."

If you are worried about this then you could try gust increasing your characters skill. Also allot of turbolaser shots will not even succeed on the difficulty class to hit your ship, weather you dodge or not. You should however be concerned about the anti fighter weaponry mounted on capships.

[Madwand]

[Ankhanu]

We initially read the rule as rolling for each individual attack... however, each dodge wasn't considered a multiple action, just different perspectives on the same activity; each attacker is attacking from a different angle, so the dodge action affected them differently. Something that gets you out of the way of a frontal attack might put you in the line of a lateral attack, etc.

We've since abandoned that to the single roll for streamlining.
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[Lostboy]

I just re read my post and know it sounded rude, i was just trying to by funny i didn't mean to be rude. Sorry. As for the turbolaser comment, most turbolasers have a fire control of between 2d to 4d with an average crew skill of 4d+1 for a total of 8d+1 at best for a turbo laser to hit it must role over the range difficulty modifier listed on page 88. Oh your GM probably thought of this but no cap ship can bring all of there guns t bare on a single target, although this is not really addressed in the system.

[Raven Redstar]

I did some calculating last night, and even front arc turbo laser cannons on a Star Destroyer have enough cannons to completely run Han Solo out of dodge dice if each fires separately. Which equates to 1-2 hits per round, at +3D damage = Dead Falcon...

My suggestion would be to sit down with your GM, and open the rule book and read over the rule carefully. Hopefully he/she will see reason. When I originally started playing, my GM made the same mistake on the rules, and eventually saw the error of his ways. I hope the same will happen for you.

[Whill]

[Random Numbers]

Why would anyone combine to hit if you had maps to every shot fired at you?
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[Madwand]

[Raven Redstar]

My character survived. Although mostly because no one ever really tried to shoot my character who was 10 years old. Although it was my first character, and I dumped a ton of dice into his dodge skill.

I think someone in the group read the rules and quoted them to him before anyone actually did get killed.

[ZzaphodD]

Whats the point of having those cap scale ships with starfighter scale weapons when you can just load up on more big guns?

I differ between the reaction skills. Dodge is done once against ALL attacks. If the attackers want to hit a monkey on fire, they have to combine.