Modifiers for Two Weapons?

[Stule]

Hey!

I have been looking at the boards this morning and I see several people quoting when using two weapons, you get a -1D to primary hand and a -2D for your off hand.

Is this an actual rule or a widely accepted house rule?

Stule

[Error]

It goes something like this:

-1D because of off hand, -1D because of two actions in a round.

This, -2D to the off hand, and -1D to the regular hand.
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[Gry Sarth]

Could anyone please tell me if this -1D to off-hand is an official rule? I never saw it.

[Hellcat]

I don't think an ampidexterous character would have to worry about it since they would have no off hand. I'm trying to find it in the second edition revised and expanded, but if it's offical, it could have been in one of the other books.
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[Gry Sarth]

If it's official, I'm thinking it's most likely 1st Edition. I read the other 2 book pretty throughly....

[Allembrande]

So rather than subtracting one die from each action, a character has a higher penalty for using both hands. I wondered at that too. I know that it is easier to use two weapons than to use one twice as fast. Is there no rule anywhere?
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[Volar the Healer]

It's official...from the first edition.
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[KageRyu]

yes, I wanted to say this was a first edition rule as well. I clearly remember reading it somewhere when I first started playing, and have always used the -1D penalty for off handed uses, as it is common sense. I just finished checking my rule book, as I wanted to post the page referencing it, but can not seem to find it. It may lay burried somewhere obscure in the 1st edition Rules, or one of the 3 1st edition sourcebooks. I did not have the Rules Companion until very recently, so I know that is not where I read it, but that book may still have a reference for it.

[KageRyu]

Ooops, almost forgot the other point I wanted to make. It's not exactly easier to use 2 weapons at once, but on the good side, you can take both shots simultaneously. Their are inherent advantages to that alone. I'd say if a character wanted to be ambidextrous, they should pay a reasonable fee (-1D starting die for skills, or 10 CP) and they would be able to ignore off handed use.

[garhkal]

Good point (about the simo taking of both shots). Also, one of the other advantages to using 2 weapons, is that some have a limited Rate of Fire (like the heavy pistol, or thunderer heavy). Using 2 weapons allows you to get more shots in without burning the weapon up (or violating the rof).

As to the -1d for off hand. I do remember that from one of the first edition books, but cannot remember which book, and what page. I have never seen it for second edition (or revised) other than as a house rule.
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[Tahlorn]

We have a character in our group that uses two specific weapons in conjunction with eachother, and has it as a specialization under melle (type of martial art). When using this, they don't get the off hand penalty, gets a free parry, but still suffers from other multiple actions (attacking with both weapons is still two attacks).

[KageRyu]