On reaction skills..

[ZzaphodD]

When you roll a reaction skill for defense you in effect create a new target number used to hit you. The same target number applies no matter how many attacks are directed at you. As long as the attackers do not combine their actions they also has no bonus for multiple attackers.

This seems very logical when we are talking about dodge.

It seems less logical if your parrying attacks in melee/brawling or parrying laser bolts with your lightsaber.

I cant find any modifiers for fighting multiple combatants in melee/brawling (or modifiers for being multiple attackers vs a single defender).

Firstly, am I missing something?
If not, how do you handle this?

[vong]

[atgxtg]

Yeah. This is why some people require multiple parries to require multiple actions.

If course A GM could rule that characters who outnumber another character have an advantage and give them a bonus to their rolls, as suggested for advantage in the book.




Something I've been toying with for lightsaber combat is to allow a character to "react" to attacks by taking a mishap in order to get a bonus for their die roll.

I was thinking of allowing this and or spending character points AFTER the attack roll as a type of reaction, but ding so only grants the bonus vs. that one attack.

For example a character has a 25 parry but the attacker rolls a 26. Normally that would be a hit, but my idea is for the character to either:

A) Take a flat +5 to his parry against this one attack, but at the cost of a mishap
B) Spend a character point to improve his defense but only against this one attack.

If the character were double teamed, and the second combatant also beat the target number, the character could do the same thing as before, but his defense would still begin at 25.

With mishaps, I am thinking that taking multiple ones in a round increases the severity of the mishap. So a character could start to desperately parry a series of powerful attacks, but end up prone of the floor. Maybe things like kicks, trips and such could be worked in as mishaps.

[Ankhanu]

When I first started playing, we actually used separate Dodge/parry rolls for each attack, ranged or otherwise... and MAPs applied.

This really worked well to maintaining the "Combat is dangerous" concept that leads into the chapter on combat in the rule book... but is a little tedious in practice. Each incoming attack had its own difficulty, as each had it's own reaction roll... or not... depending on how the player chose to react in the round.

We've since gone to the RAW, rolling a single reaction for all incoming attacks of that type.



Also, I don't use the updated rule allowing you to not declare reactions until they're needed. If you want to avoid an attack, you declare your reaction and take the MAP all the way through.
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[ZzaphodD]

We have always before used one action to parry each close combat attack. Quite recently I actuall read the part about melee reaction skills (as the 'one action per parry' way of playing was inherited from a previous gm).

Now im trying to streamline the gameplay towards the RAW, but hardcore RAW seems rather unrealistic so a small modification is in place even if I parry is still only one action. As pointed out above, perhaps a +1D bonus to attack per additional attacker should do the trick.

[garhkal]

With me when i run home games..
Dodging - 1 roll for all those shooting you. 1 additional roll if someone tossed a grenade your way. 1 additional roll if someone is using a DIFFERENT scaled weapon on you. 1 additional roll if a melee weapon is tossed...

Melee. One parry roll to combat those meleer's, and 1 additional roll for those brawling..
Same with brawl.
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[Nico_Davout]

For my group I`ve created Defenses for Dodge, Melee and Brawling. Characters were always 'dodging/parrying' except when surprised or unable from whatever reasons. Each Defense was equal to 3 time x number of skill dice + pips. To hit the character NPC had to roll character's Defense + any modifiers for cover, visibility, range etc.
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[Raven Redstar]

Is that base difficulty, unless they roll?

[Nico_Davout]

Yep, Defense DC or Range DC, whichever is higher.
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[cunning_kindred]

In my games we did for a time consider separate parries but in the end decided that this slowed down the game and detracted from the swashbuckling heroism of the setting. We wanted combat lethal but not slow.

We have modified the rules for reactions a lot though. We allow dodge or parry to be used against any attack but the appropriateness of the reaction used grants a bonus to the attacker. If you dodge a melee attacker he gains a +2D bonus to hit you for example. You need special knowledge to use some kind of parries (such as parrying a blaster bolt). By using different manoeuvres you can invalidate certain reactions and make it easier to hit an opponent.

If a character is overwhelmed by opponents then his opponents might get a small +1D (or under extremely rare circumstances +2D) bonus to his roll but more often than not we use combined fire and similar to represent overwhelming opponents. We feel that in Star Wars it suits the feel of the setting to allow one player to swarm relatively easily through minion-level character regardless of how many there actually are.

[atgxtg]

One thing that could work is one action to parry, but separate rolls for each parry. Maybe with a MAP for mutiple foes.

[Random Numbers]

If you attack you get deducted on your parry...it goes both way since the attacker would then have to parry.

Combine melee attacks? Combine blaster to hit a parrying Jedi?

Dodge is only one action, so to me it seams that so should lightsaber/melee parry be as well.

Maybe there should also be a full parry. No other action can be taken, but a bonus to parry.
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