Stormtrooper Units & OoB

TyCaine · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject: Stormtrooper Units & OoB

Hey there,

New to the boards and have looked through various topics but haven't found an answer to this question, and so wondered if I might pick everyone's brains...

(Forgive if this is covered elsewhere, I could not find it...)

Has anyone sat down and figured out unit strengths and the Order of Battle for Stormtroopers?

Everything I've found has come back with conflicting reports, some state one thing while others state conflicting info, for instance from Wookieepedia: "three-company deployments with 540 troopers. Standard stormtrooper battalions, however, are cited as comprising 800 to 820 men"

Imperial Army (and from that can be construed Navy) units are well documented in the Imperial Sourcebook, and copied verbatim to Wookieepedia, but Stormtroopers, the supposed elite shock troops of the Galactic Empire are barely given a paragraph...

Has anyone sat down and figured things out? I mean, you can take some numbers from the Imperial Army, lose the support personal and droids, and work from there, but it still doesn't ring true to me...

Any thoughts?

Smile

T.C.

Raven Redstar · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject:

In Rules of Engagement: Rebel Spec Force Handbook on page 97, Stormtrooper Order of battle is described as follows:

TyCaine · Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject:

You know something? I never thought to check in the RSF handbook! Smile

Ok, with what I already had pieced together, as well as that clarification, here's what I have if it's of use to anyone:

Fire Team 4 total

Squad 9 total

Platoon 40 total

Company 174 total

Battalion 820 total

Division 3364 total

Legion 14012 total

The assumption with these numbers is that an ISD holds 9,700 troops (and is quoted as holding a division of Stormtroopers), these would consist of one Division of Stormtroopers, and one augmented Regiment, or two regular Regiments, of Imperial Army and/or Navy troops...

How do these numbers sound, and do they settle well with anyone?

As background, one of my players was asking and we could readily find details on the Army OoB, but we were trying to put something together for the Men In White... Very Happy

T.C.

Doomhead · Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject:

Its funny, if I was in the imperial army I would be in charge of a company.... but in the Air force, I'm in charge of a desk!!!!

FYI:

Order of Battle is usually abbreviated to OB.
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wolfe · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject:

The Saga Rebellion era book has the stormtrooper basic OOB listed.
(TyCaine you left out Regiment)

Never bothered with divisions as the only time "Division" ever came up with stormtroopers is the description in the Star destroyer, used Legion instead.

TyCaine · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject:

I'll checked out the Rebellion Era Saga book, and found it to be yet another take on the Stormtrooper OB...

Though from all the sources I've found so far the Regiment unit was used in the Imperial Army, whereas in the Stormtroopers it was replaced by Division (about same strength), and Battlegroup/Brigade in Imperial Army was replaced by Legion (again about the same strength)....

I'm beginning to think there's as many ways to map out the units of the Stormtrooper Corps as there are Stormtroopers, whereas the Imperial Army is relatively well documented and fairly similar across most systems (although in saying that, a second look at Rebellion Era Campaign Guide in Saga again gives the Army a different disposition than other sources)..

Smile

Not sure where I would go from here, and I presume we have to put the differences down to individual interpretations... In which case, if anything I did was useful, then cool! Wink

T.C.

bobenhotep · Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject:

i do not know what the mtoe is for a stormtrooper unit. I always patterned most military stuff in sw after what i know, manuver units in the us army.

large units usually have special troops attached to them, depending on mission. these will throw your numbers off. also, how many troops from a modern army would be droids in their army is debatable too.

i guess you could use a manuver unit for example. it has 7 companies
-headquarters
-medical and special troops fall here, as do your troops in the battalion hq. scouts, snipers, communications, etc. also the battalion commander's staff

-2 comanies of mech infantry
- each has abot 110 troops. they have bradleys, which can fight on their own and can let out an infantry fire team apiece.

-2 companies of tanks
- each of these companies only has about 60 soldiers. they operate tanks, which are more of an offensive weapon than the bradleys

-a company of engineers
- these guys blow things up and fortify existing structures. also have earth movers

-a support company
-mechanics, cooks and truck drivers to basically sum it up. a lot of these guys would be droids...

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