Force Powers

[Ragnar]

When our group played jedi and were learning force powers we had to spend CP to raise our force attribute to get a power under it or we had to spend 5 CP.

[Maximilian Bernas]

I go with 10 CP. I know that seems like a lot of character points, but we are talking about the potential of an extremely powerful character.

If martial arts maneuvers for Spec. Force chars are 10 CP each (if you don't raise your Martial Arts specialty by a full +1D), then why would new Force skills be only +5 CP?

This is how it went down when I was a player: we had a Jedi instructor (he refused to be called a 'Master' ["I never earned it, not sure I ever will"]) until Vader got him, who gave us an encrypted datafile to the location of a few minor jedi relics (an incomplete holocron, some data pads, a few lightsaber parts, some Adegan crystals, and some ancient printed texts), and the chars took several game sessions to find the cache, then several more running from Imperials, then a few more just to try and find a secluded world on which to try the goodies out.

It was a lengthy story to be certain, but by the time it was over, I suppose the GM felt okay about giving us what amounted to 10-15 new jedi powers, instruction (via the holocron) to learn Alter, and the necessary raw materials and plans to construct our own lightsabers.

We were almost capable padawans by the time Endor fell. So, we were ale to assist in the construction of the Yavin 4 academy. Then the game disbanded, but I assume we would have continued helping Master Skywalker in finding possible new recruits.
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[Volar the Healer]

10 CPs sounds reasonable, but I was more caught up in the description of your campaign. It sounds well thought out. A challenging campaign is usually more fun.

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[Maximilian Bernas]

Yeah, I learned a great deal from that GM. He opened up my overly descriptive world and allowed me to do some "seat of the pants" work. It really made me a better storyteller.

My players don't complain any way.
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[Kabal]

When it comes to how the Force is handled, I have to admit that I greatly prefer the first edition over the 2nd (or <gag> Revised and Expanded).

In 2nd Edition, there is too much emphasis on the specific powers, and how many a character knows, how they can be gained, how many you get for each increase in your Force Stats. I see that as being too structured, too rigid, almost as if they were spells that needed to be memorized. I feel that this goes against the very spirit of the Force.

I view Force use taking the basic elements of Control, Sense, and Alter, and blending them together to get the desired effect. Perhaps it has something to do with my preferred timeline for campaigns that I run (which almost always take place during the original trilogy, usually between ANH and ESB).

In my games, I run the Force as fluid and unstructured. All a Force user needs to do is give me a description of what they would like done, and I tell them which stat(s) they need to roll, and what the difficulty numbers are.

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[Crell Damar]

What Ragnar forgot to mention up above is that in our group, it was 5cp or the base attribute when trained by a master; when training yourself, all cp costs and time spent were doubled.
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[MA-3PO]

Since the Jedi purge it gets very hard to find a teacher. Can a Force spirit qualify as one? Luke advances his skills and learns new powers between ANH and ESB. It says in the rules that you can ONLY learn new powers from a teacher(R&E pg 141). Was Obi-Wan somehow training him during this time?

[RedFox]

Well Luke's a very powerful Jedi from the most powerful "jedi lineage" ever seen in the Galaxy.

I believe R&E notes that it's possible for characters to invent powers, but only very rarely and if they are very powerful. I'd think Luke did that between ANH and ESB by "reinventing the wheel" as far as developing his Telekenesis went.

Then again, the "You can't learn new powers without a teacher ever nuh uh no way" always sounded fishy to me. Force Sensitives had to develop powers from scratch in the very beginning somehow, right?

I think it's just WEG's bias toward keeping Jedi scarce in their chosen play-era, which is during the Galactic Civil War.

I'm more inclined to just increase xp costs and training time just as with anything else.
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[Xzil Maru]

I always figured every force sensitive has certain talents (telekinesis, enhance attribute [one particular attribute until he trains a bit], farseeing that sort of thing) so usually in my games if someone is force sensitive I give them a power [usually secretly depending on the character, other times I'll discuss with the player] and have it kick in from time to time, asking for a perception check or relevant force skill roll.

I figure that training brings out your natural talents, as much as it can let you learn new techniques.

I've never had a problem with a character developing a new power on their own, although the first one is more of a freebie to make their character playable.

Oh, and if you aren't having the Inquistitorium hunt down the force using charaters in the Empire era, your doing something wrong. Any Empire era game I run, I have somebody hunting down the force sensitives as a matter of course. It usually fun to have the dark side user offer the PCs to join them the first time they meet, and be utterly ruthless if not efficient in the hunt.
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