Brawling: Martial Arts?

[Noven]

I am starting to think that having no specializations for Brawling would be preferable since there are no real ways that sit well with anyone. At least with no specializations, no one gets screwed and it is balanced.

[jmanski]

I'd be more inclined to make it a stand-alone skill and keep the moves. Instead of only being able to use certain moves, you can use any move, but get a bonus to using moves you know (IE one level of difficulty lower).
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[Ankhanu]

[Esoomian]

I like these options also. Although I'd be tempted to make styles available for specialisations (Boxing for instance) as they seem to have the restrictions needed for a specialisation to be balanced.

I'd probably call the advanced skill something unimaginitive like Advanced unarmed combat and let the player (in co-operation with the GM) work out the potential bonuses it might give.
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[garhkal]

[cheshire]

That would make your punches as good as a knife. I'm not sure I'm willing to go that far. It makes you a very effective fighter, but the effectiveness of the punches could probably be played out in other ways.

Heck, with how the wound levels work out, even a +2 could be pretty significant addition to a punch.
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[Delkarnu]

[Esoomian]

[garhkal]

Hence my "At most" comment. Me i would start with base str, and for the more difficult punches (eg overhand right, hook etc) i would go up from there with 1d as the max bonus.
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[Rasta]

To me, boxing is a form of martial art. In the UFC (where martial arts are tested against one another) it is among the dominating forms. I like the idea of making different forms of martial arts into an advanced skills.

Each form would specialize in an application based on the techniques employed.

Throwing out ideas:

Boxing could grant stun damage (STR + 1D STUN) to simulate the knockout power of boxers.

Other martial arts (Kung Fu, Tae Kwon Do, Karate, Muay Thai, Judo, Ju-Jitsu) could grant special moves to emulate the styles of either speed, power, or grappling.

Another practicle advantage of martial arts training would be that it would be easier to defend and attack against an untrained opponent.

Another advantage that could balance out the disadvantage of making martial arts into an advanced skill is that perhaps martial arts is used for both attack and defence.

[cheshire]

Putting down the actual mechanics of that could be interesting. Though, I suppose that's the problem that even WEG had when it was trying to do these specializations and advanced skills. They thought that martial arts was a great idea, but when it came to mechanical application they either became impractical (such as the martial art introduced in the Shadows of the Empire book) or unbalanced (as the Rebel Special Forces Handbook is often accused of being).
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[Dread Pirate Al]

[Rasta]

[garhkal]

I have statted out a spec martial art for UFC style boxing.

First spec maneuver is jab as in the Spec force book
Then you have haymaker
upper cut
spinning back fist
hook
straight right and
overhand right. Each doing from Str+1d+1 to Str+3d for the spinning back fist. None can kill as each only do at most incap..
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