Starships Stats Discussion

Gry Sarth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: Starships Stats Discussion

I suddenly felt guilty about completely derailing the "New Fanbook Idea" thread in Tools with starships stats discussion, so I decided to create this new thread devoted to that specific purpose: discuss general starships stats, conversions, creations, and any future publications.
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Gry Sarth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

So, let me start. With some initial rumblings about doing yet another edition of the Starships Stats book, I started looking at and ironing my stats collection, and some stats stood out. I've been gathering starships stats for so long that there are many which I don't even remember where I found, and though with time I started taking them for granted, upon closer examination they appear to be complete fanon.

I don't really wan't to include fanon in my stats books. Sure, homemade stats are welcome, but the ships themselves have to be official (whether from the movies, rpg, books, games, etc).

After combing my entire list of stats, I've compiled the ones for which I simply couldn't find an official reference, and I'm seriously considering axing all of those in a future edition of the book. Some of them are quite cool, but nowadays it seems to me we have PLENTY official ships, so there's no need to include fan creations.

Here's the list of presumably fanon ships. If anybody has anything to say in defense of any of them, please, speak up!

STARFIGHTERS
__ Drake Starfighter
__ Cinnagar Interceptor
__ Mercenary Fighter

__ SEPARATISTS
__ Advanced Droid Starfighter
__ Droid Bomber

__ ALLIANCE
__ Cal Medium Starfighter

TRANSPORTS
__ FREIGHTERS
__ CT-200
__ Nella 330
__ Nella 352
__ YT-4000

CAPITAL SHIPS
__ BATTLESHIPS
__ Corellian Support Frigate
__ Huntress Pursuit Cruiser

__ SEPARATISTS
__ Trade Federation Armed Freighter
__ Skanaw Patrol frigate

__ IMPERIAL
__ Star Destroyer III
__ Abolisher Cruiser
__ Broadsword Heavy Troop Transport
__ Interdictor II

__ ALLIANCE
__ Mon Calamari Escort Frigate
__ Mon Calamari Super Star Cruiser

INDIVIDUAL SHIPS
__TRANSPORTS
__ Feeg Liat
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Gry Sarth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject:

And here's a new set of stats for a very interesting craft from the Empire at War game:

Sundered Heart
Craft: Heavily modified Corellian Engineering Corp. CR90 Corvette
Affiliation: Raymus Antilles (rebel captain)
Era: Rise of the Empire
Type: Mid-sized strike craft
Scale: Capital
Length: 150 meters
Skill: Capital ship piloting: Corellian Corvette
Crew: 46, gunners: 10
Crew Skill: Astrogation 3D, capital ship gunnery 5D, capital ship piloting 4D, capital ship shields 3D, sensors 3D
Passengers: 200
Cargo Capacity: 3,000 metric tons
Consumables: 1 year
Cost: Not for sale
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x2
Hyperdrive Backup: x12
Nav Computer: Yes
Maneuverability: 3D
Space: 10
Atmosphere: 415; 1,200 kmh
Hull: 4D
Shields: 2D
Energy Flux Device: The operator must make an opposed sensors roll against the target ship’s operator. If the attacker is successful, the target ship loses 1D of damage to all its energy weapons for a number of rounds equal to the difference between sensor rolls. Each subsequent energy flux attack grants a cumulative +5 bonus to the defender’s sensors roll.
Sensors:
Passive: 40/1D
Scan: 80/2D
Search: 100/3D
Focus: 5/4D
Weapons:
2 Double Turbolaser Cannons
Fire Arc: Front
Crew: 3
Skill: Capital ship gunnery
Fire Control: 3D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75
Atmosphere Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 5D
4 Laser Cannons
Fire Arc: 2 left, 2 right
Crew: 1
Scale: Starfighter
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 3D
Space Range: 1-5/10/17
Atmosphere Range: 100-500/1/1.7 km
Damage: 5D
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Gry Sarth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject:

I kow, I know. Slow night.... Another new ship, from the X-Wing series:

Assassin Corvette
Craft: Corellian Engineering Corporation Assassin-class Corvette
Affiliation: General / Rebel Alliance / Empire
Era: Rebellion
Type: System patrol craft
Scale: Capital
Length: 139.2 meters
Skill: Capital ship piloting: Assassin Corvette
Crew: 60 to 150, depending upon configuration
Crew Skill: All skills 3D+2
Passengers: Up to 350, depending upon configuration
Cargo Capacity: 2,400 metric tons
Consumables: 1 year
Cost: 4 million (new), 2 million (used)
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x1
Hyperdrive Backup: x14
Nav Computer: Yes
Maneuverability: 2D
Space: 6
Atmosphere: 330; 950 kmh
Hull: 5D
Shields: 2D
Sensors:
Passive: 40/1D
Scan: 100/2D
Search: 140/3D
Focus: 8/4D
Weapons:
6 Double Turbolaser Cannons
Fire Arc: 1 front, 1 top, 1 bottom, 1 left, 1 right, 1 back
Crew: 2
Skill: Capital ship gunnery
Fire Control: 3D
Space Range: 3-15/35/75
Atmosphere Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 5D
Concussion Missile Tube (10 missiles)
Fire Arc: front
Crew: 2
Skill: Capital ship gunnery
Fire Control: 3D
Space Range: 2-12/30/60
Atmosphere Range: 200-1.2/3/6 km
Damage: 6D
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Kirkler · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:02 pm Post subject:

Ok throw back to the fanbook topic about speed, you have TIE Defenders listed having a space of 17, fastest ship in the statbook if I'm not mistaken. I allways thought the A-wing's speed was under rated. I also seem to remember a version of the A-wing with concussion missiles. "The Essential guide to Vehicles and Vessels" printed in 1996 has The A-wing with missiles. I have a copy of the book just wondering if any one else has flipped threw it and noticed that.

Kirkler · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject:

I have the YT-4000 stats in my collection as well. with a bit of a write up. I don't recall ever seeing them anywhere but the internet. I agree that only official ships should be used. With all the Comic books and novels and games out now there are plenty of ships and stats to pull from. Thats my two cents for now. Keep up the great work Gry. All your books make it into my cannon list for games.

Ray · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject:

Gry Sarth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject:

Just for the record I readjusted the TIE Defender's speed to Space 16.

I wouldn't go changing the A-Wing's official stats, though I do remember a variation with missiles. Maybe we couls write stats for an alternate model....
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Kirkler · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject:

I allways let my players pick either the missiles or the jammer but not both. One is recon and one is an interceptor. Thats my thoughts anyways perhaps give the missile carrying one a little speed boost to put on par with the older ships that out fly it? How does space 14 sound?

Orgaloth · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject:

The cinnigar fighter is in tales of the jedi. One of those set 4000bby.
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Gry Sarth · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:56 am Post subject:

Thanks, Org. Any other that deserves being preserved?

And here's another stat conversion. A pretty cool modified YT-1300 from the Gamer Magazine.

The Courageous
Craft: Heavily Modified Corellian YT-1300 Transport
Affiliation: Pirates > Planetary Defense Forces > Bounty Hunter
Era: Rise of the Empire
Source: Gamer Magazine Issue 2
Type: Modified light freighter
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 38 meters
Skill: Space transports: YT-1300
Crew: 1 (1 can coordinate), gunners: 2
Crew Skill: Varies
Passengers: 2
Cargo Capacity: 2 metric tons
Consumables: 1 month
Cost: Likely valued at 150,000
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x3
Hyperdrive Backup: x12
Nav Computer: Yes
Space: 4
Atmosphere: 480; 800 kmh
Hull: 5D
Shields: 1D
Sensors:
Passive: 10/0D
Scan: 30/1D
Search: 50/2D
Focus: 3/3D
Weapons:
2 Heavy Turbolasers
Fire Arc: Front
Crew: 1
Skill: Capital ship gunnery
Fire Control: 2D+1
Space Range: 3-15/35/75
Atmosphere Range: 6-30/70/150 km
Damage: 4D
Double Laser Cannon
Fire Arc: Turret
Crew: 1
Skill: Starship gunnery
Fire Control: 2D
Space Range: 1-3/12/25
Atmosphere Range: 100-300/1.2/2.5 km
Damage: 4D
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Doomhead · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: Some Ships

Here are some of the ships in a .doc format! I can Also upload it as a PDF, if people would prefer that!

http://www.box.net/shared/k7yztum4gs
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Hawk Warboy · Cadet Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Astoria, NY

Well, this is a conversion question. I mostly know (and have stuff for) 2ndEdRev, but just got a GG6: Tramp Steamers, a ridiculously happy moment for me. Everything is pretty kosher, but I have no idea what to do with Ion Drives. Total fool question - in 1st Ed, did one roll for space movement? And what is the conversion? (I'm thinking, from what I'm seeing, something like a 1st Ed. 2D Ion Drive = a 2ndR&E 4 Space rating?)

Don't mean to alter the train of thought here, but this has been bugging me... Thanks! Gry - you're awesome!
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Ankhanu · Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:42 am Post subject:

In the 2nd Edition book there's a 1st -> 2nd ed. conversion chart at the end of the book right before the Templates. I don't think it was included in R&E though.
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Hawk Warboy · Cadet Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Posts: 11 Location: Astoria, NY

Is it all right to ask about this specific aspect? I'm guessing that actually seeing the chart's a problem, legally (though, as it's a conversion, I'm not entirely sure why).

Was my stab at it accurate?
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