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Ray Commodore


Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 1743 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, North America, Western Hemisphere, Earth, Sol, Western Arm, Milky Way
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2004 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yep. Oota does... Not... Miss. Ever.
He's currently working on training his off hand...
That's scary, as he wears a pair of Thunderers with his HOUSECOAT. |
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Maximilian Bernas Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 149 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | . I have drank apricot brandy from a golden chalice…why would I want to go have backwashed ripple in a dirty glass?
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Son of Fire, I almost spewed on the keyboard... Thanks for the laugh! _________________ "Let your anger be like a monkey in a pinata"
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Son of Fire Captain


Joined: 03 Sep 2003 Posts: 554 Location: Rose City Canada
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Not a problem mang.
On occasion I have been known to make a funny now and again.
Though it is pretty rare. _________________ "My schooling not only failed to teach me what it professed to be teaching, but prevented me from being educated to an extent which infuriates me when I think of all I might have learned at home by myself." - George Bernard Shaw |
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Maximilian Bernas Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 149 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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People will always criticize. I believe the young people used to say, "don't be a hater" but I could be wrong... _________________ "Let your anger be like a monkey in a pinata"
- Master Tang |
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Vartax Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 13 Oct 2003 Posts: 203 Location: Salem, OR
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Between D20 and D6 I must admit that I am a D6 addict, mainly in collecting the books. Earlier it was stated that D6 and Star Wars in generel is slanted toward the jedi. The Best part of D20 was the idea of limiting the Jedi by vitality points. In D6 the limitations come from the fact that as a Jedi progresses he/she is learning that the force is something that should be used as a last resort. While the dark jedi use it all the time. The trade of is that, light side jedi are able to live longer natural lives and help the galaxy, while the darkside eats that dark jedi from the inside out. It is because a more experienced player would more than likely comprehend that D6 idea of limitation, that I keep noobs to the other 100's of templates that D6 has to offer. |
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RedFox Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 196 Location: El Centro, CA
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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The best pilot in the galaxy as far as the EU is concerned isn't even a jedi. Baron Soontir Fel is a normal bloke, albeit a very gifted one. I don't think he's ever been given stats, but going off other NPCs, I'd be willing to give him 13D+ in starfighter piloting and gunnery skills. _________________ Ooo, a droid! Can I fix it?
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Hellcat Grand Moff


Joined: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 11921 Location: New England
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:08 am Post subject: Re: A Comment on a D6 Criticism that I have heard... |
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Jedi Knight Jael Weiss wrote: | Hi guys,
I was checking out what the enemy was writing about the D6 system on another forum, and one of the things that they wrote is their opinion that the D6 system is vastly unbalanced in favor of the Jedi characters, wheras the D20 ::trying not to lose his cookies:: is better for game balance because no one character class truly dominates.
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I'm just curious what other forum you're talking about cause I recall seeing a similar discussion in the forums over at TheForce.Net. _________________ FLUFFY for President!!!!
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Jace_Terrik Lieutenant


Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 85 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:24 am Post subject: Jedi Cookiee Cutting.... |
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Well, did it ever cross your mind, that when WEG's D6-system came out Jedi-characters were rare?
I, in fact, once played a campaign, where there were no Jedi at all. I mean, they weren't even any Jedi-NPC's.
Now, suddenly, we've got Jedi popping out of the woodwork like 'roaches, with every character and their uncle's dog getting the label "Jedi". _________________ There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no chaos; there is harmony.
There is no death; there is the Force. |
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RedFox Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 196 Location: El Centro, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Jedi Cookiee Cutting.... |
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Jace_Terrik wrote: | Now, suddenly, we've got Jedi popping out of the woodwork like 'roaches, with every character and their uncle's dog getting the label "Jedi". |
Because George has upped the ampage on Jedi with the prequel films. Before, Jedi were important dramatically. Nowadays, it's all about the kewl lightsaber fights and how much they can rip off wuxia films. _________________ Ooo, a droid! Can I fix it?
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Volar the Healer Jedi

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Jedi Cookiee Cutting.... |
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Jace_Terrik wrote: | Now, suddenly, we've got Jedi popping out of the woodwork like 'roaches, with every character and their uncle's dog getting the label "Jedi". |
This is an indication of quality of the director, not the D6 game system. _________________ Know Jesus, Know Peace.
No Jesus, No Peace |
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Wookie rage Sub-Lieutenant


Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 66
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Maybe one of the reasons I prefer d6 over d20 is the eras they focus on. I'd rather pretend Lucas never created gungans (what drugs possessed him to make Jar Jar????) and stay in the era of the rebellion and new jedi order. Almost all of the books for D20 are set in the republic era and hardly any info on the Rebellion's era. To me, that's star wars and I have a harder time with the newer movies. (I don't see Vader giving into fear, just anger. has anyone ever seen Vader scared? once? Then why show it in the movie.) _________________ wookies+lightsabers=bad day
"Let's just say we'd like to avoid any Imperial entanglements." ~Obi Wan Kenobi |
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Crell Damar Line Captain


Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845
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Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have friends that won't play WEG starwars because of all the stuff they "made up"; Alien Species, Weapons, Planets, ect. They Claim that D20 is better because it doesn't veer away from anything lucas has put out. Or, anything he's approved.  _________________ "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times... before the Empire. "
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Maximilian Bernas Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 149 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Crell Damar wrote: | I have friends that won't play WEG starwars because of all the stuff they "made up"; Alien Species, Weapons, Planets, ect. They Claim that D20 is better because it doesn't veer away from anything lucas has put out. Or, anything he's approved.  |
I see. Timothy Zahn "made up" Grand Admiral Thrawn even though everybody knows that the Emperor had a bias against aliens. Lucas not only approved it, he keeps getting Zahn to write more stuff. When WEG approached Lucas in the 80s to even do the project, Lucas pretty much had complete control over anything and everything that was created.
Don't believe me? Then read about the fallout after the novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye and how pissed Lucas was because of an implied sexual whatever-the-hell-it-was between Luke and Leia. After that, Lucas kept all people even remotely affiliated with the "Behemouth Star Wars" on a very short genital cuff. NOBODY does anything without Lucas saying yea/nay.
And what the heck would they know about what is better? Play both and THEN make your decision. I did, and that's why I still play d6.
Here endeth the lesson... _________________ "Let your anger be like a monkey in a pinata"
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Volar the Healer Jedi

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Maximilian Bernas wrote: | ...Play both and THEN make your decision. I did, and that's why I still play d6. |
Ditto. _________________ Know Jesus, Know Peace.
No Jesus, No Peace |
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Firehawk0220 Lieutenant Commander


Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 151 Location: Dallas, TX.
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Personally I don't like either the D20 or the D6 system. Although I did use the D6 system in the past a few times and just really didn't like it.
The thing is, along time ago a bunch of friends of mine wanted to play a Star Trek RPG, well at the time there wasn't one. So as a result I needed to create one.
I tested many systems and tried adapting existing ones from other games to it. All in all I never got the smooth results I wanted.
Therefore I created my own. From scratch. Every rule, every piece of data, I've tried to balance out everything from all the sources I could find.
The players liked the system so much, that we've adapted the system to other games. Personally I think the system is very quick and very fast. The hardest chores are on me. Mainly because the downside is that it forces me to either convert what I find in other games for ship stats over to my system. So theres many hours spent on my part doing it.
My players enjoy it and I don't mind doing the work. Part of the reason I've kind of always stuck with it, is I can't help but notice how complex some other systems are, and yet they still don't cover every situation very well or how much time they take to use and learn.
The system I can generally teach a new player to use inside of about 10-15 minutes. They know everything they need to roll the dice, use their skills and they learn the combat system in the same alotted time.
Even Star Wars. Generally I keep the skills list the same, and that's about it. So the skill names don't change but sometimes I do have to change the way the skill works to a degree.
Hardcore D20 players from D&D and even some hardcore D6 players have all liked it. They continue to play in my games even though it was different to use a completely new system.
I think its just that easy to use. So I say use whatever system you like. If you like D6 or D20 use them. If not create your own. As long as you and your players enjoy yourselves, and you can provide an entertaining game that's all that matters.
I don't think D20 or D6 adjusts anything in the Star Wars universe. That being said sometimes the people who write the information in some of the source books and published RPG books have things a little skewed from time to time, therefore you should feel free to simply adjust the balance if need be. |
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