Concentration - Controlling abuse

[garhkal]

I can see using it to assist bringing LS combat up, BUT not wile trying to fight with it..
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[Esoomian]

I've seen it used instead of LSC as the person was a low level jedi and actually got more of a bonus from concentration than they did for LSC
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[Ankhanu]

That's sick
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[Xynar]

Doesn't Concentration effect only a single skill? If so, it can't be used for Lightsaber Combat (Control+Sense).
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[Esoomian]

Good point! However it can still be used to enhance the skill lightsaber
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[Esoomian]

Does that work? Can you concentrate on half a task?

What do you roll to activate Lightsaber combat?
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[Matthias777]

I didn't know that you could do the Control and Sense rolls separately...this isn't a house rule? Not disputing it, I just need to be taught.
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[Liana]

In the games I've played, our GM has allowed Jedi to make Sense and Control rolls separately... Lightsaber Combat just isn't active until both are successful, and our MAP is still applied for having one or the other up.

Example:
Jedi Anne succeeds on her Control roll, but misses the Sense roll. She can try again the next time her turn comes 'round, but since she's already got the Control part of LSC going, she's still at a -1 to her Sense roll. If she makes the roll, LSC is active, and she's now taking a -2 penalty on her next action.

Mechanically, I don't think it's any different from succeeding at both rolls the first time, save that it's extended over 2 (or more, if she keeps failing) rounds, with the MAP applied and no bonuses for having LSC active.

[Xynar]

I'm a jerk. I force the players to roll both. If they fail, roll both again. And they must have their lightsaber ignited as well. This helps "balance" the Jedi for the sake of my other players that aren't Jedi. This makes Jedi suck compared to other characters until they can get powerful enough to perform multiple force powers. Then the Jedi is way better. It also gives the Jedi player more satisfaction as they can really grow their character and watch them evolve.
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[Karae]

Forgetting about bringing Lightsaber Combat up with Concentration, here's why I've limited Concentration in my PbP game here on the forums.

If a player starts to use the force with assistance (ie Concentration), even when they reach a point where they could do without the assistance, they'll be less likely to abandon it, as they've become so used to using it at the same time.

That means that often, having the Concentration power, can replace bothering to increase dice in force skills, for the sake of activation.

Oh, I know that the dice MAY be raised.. but that's most likely to allow them to access new force powers, that they want to use Concentration to use...