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Alcon Commander
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 253 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: My Cardinal Rule of Roleplay: What is yours? |
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For me there is one Cardinal Rule of Roleplay that I apply to any and all roleplaying games is: Never ever act for a character that is not in your control in any way. It applies for the GM and for the players.
It's one of the things that annoys me most about GMs or players. When they speak for my character. Even little things: "(PC1) smiles at (PC2) who smiles back." Maybe PC2 didn't wanna smile back, but rather planned on snubbing PC1. Even if the player for PC1 is relatively sure that the relationship between the characters warrants such action, he doesn't know that.
As a GM I work really hard to never ever put actions or words in my characters mouth. By which I mean, if a Storm Trooper steps out from a door way -- hoping to catch a character by surprise -- I try not to put it like this "A Storm Trooper emerges from a door way, catching you completely by surprise, a shocked expression on your face." Rather "A Storm Trooper emerges from a door way. OOC: Your surprised, how do you act?" And then allow the player to decide how the surprise registers on his characters actions and faces.
It's pretty hard to do sometimes. It can be really tempting, especially in short exchanges, where you're pretty sure of what the other character is gonna do to just go ahead and do it for them. But I've found that while Rp goes a little bit slower, it's totally worth it because their is only one player playing each character. It can turn what would have otherwise been a meaningless exchange in to a much more interesting one: "(PC1) smiles at (PC2)." "(PC2) glares back at (PC1). 'What are you smiling at, huh?'" "(PC1) suddenly looks really confused, '...'"
So that's my Cardinal Rule, what's yours? What to you is the most important single rule to try and hold to while roleplaying? (Aside from the Stars Wars Rule of Thumb :p ) _________________ The Road Goes On - My personal blog.
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Esoomian High Admiral
Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 6207 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I have a clearly defined cardinal rule in my head but the rule you've just described is very high up in my priorites. I usually get surprised when exchanges aren't played out in this way. Although watching someone hold a conversation by themselves (IE two NPC's talking) can be very amusing. _________________ Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.
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TheDoctor Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 150 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's irritating.
But I think it's appropriate for GM's to dicated involuntary actions for the PCs.
For example:
PC: I'm hiding in the Durri Berry crate from Ploovo's thugs.
GM: Sure, roll your hide skill....a 26...no problem, you're totally safe.
PC: Great!
GM: But how do you feel about Dravid Snakes?
PC: Huh?
GM: As I recall, your character has a total phobia of snakes, especially Dravid Snakes which love Durri Berries.
PC: Oh no...
GM: I'm afraid a sickly scaly sensation slithers past your arm as you're hiding in the darkness.
PC: I keep quiet.
GM: Roll stamina....ouch! Four. Although you try to bite your lip, you let out a sharp squeal as you jerk back flailing at the snake....
As far as cardinal rules:
Don't argue with the GM
I hate RPG "lawyers". "But it says on page 144..." I made the call, I don't care what page 144 says and I can tell you where you can shove page 144. Nuff said.
Don't interrupt
I as the GM can make Darth Vader come out of nowhere just to b#tch slap you if you keep that up.
No whining
This is along the same thread as arguing. As GM, Yoda will come out of nowhere, b#tch slap you and say "Shove lightsaber up your @$$ I will, if whining like a little girl you don't stop."
Bathe
Not normally a problem among my friends and I, but ranks very high among environmental hazards at gaming conventions. Please, a little Sure goes a long way.
The GM CAN be bribed
I'll add +5 to any roll for a cookie, I'll let you reroll anything for $5, and for $100, you can be a badder Jedi than Yoda, Mace Windu and Young Obi-Wan combined. _________________ "We attack under cover of daylight. Yes it's the last thing they'll be expecting, a daylight charge over the minefield." - Arnold Judas Rimmer, BSC SSC |
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Be Flexible
Situations don't always go the way you want. Rules don't always apply as written (or at all). New rules may appear. Roll with it, make the best of the situation... but don't b**** about it. It's one thing to point out what the rules say to make sure that it's understood, but if the GM changes it, knowing that information, that's the way it is... go with it.
Flexibility also covers a lot of the concepts above, like rules lawyering, whining, etc.
I'm also a fan of not acting for other characters; let the PCs dictate their characters' actions... not you. It does slow things down a little, but it ensures that each player feels like they have ownership of their character and have responsibility for what happens to them. _________________ Hotaru no Hishou; a messageboard about games, friends and nothing at all.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14168 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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One of mine.. if you are the most experienced guy/gal on the table, give the newbies a chance to do/solve/say something before you act. just cause you can do it, does not mean you should.
Another. If gaming, game. Don't talk on a cel phone, watch TV, play the PC/nintendo etc. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Orgaloth Vice Admiral
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 3754 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Mine is simple. Have fun and make the game fun for others. _________________ "I take orders from just one person: Me!"
"You know, sometimes I amaze even myself."
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Karae Captain
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 654 Location: Sheffield, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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*agrees with Orgaloth*
The reason we roleplay (apart from to get away from the wife/girlfriend/Significant Other) is to have fun, and spend time with friends. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think Org nailed the cardinal rule. At the end of the day, what it all boils down to is having fun. All the issues of combat-oriented, story-oriented, character-oriented, rules-heavy, freeflowing, railroading can go one way or another, as long as the game is fun for all. Ive had some very well conceived games that were simply not all that fun, and many crappy ones that were a hoot. At the end of the day, thats what really matters. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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noctum_carpe Rear Admiral
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 2466 Location: Lidköping, Sweden
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Ankhanu Vice Admiral
Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 3089 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:24 am Post subject: |
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To all you who just posted the "Have Fun" rule, I kind of assumed that that was the intended end result of the "cardinal rules". As such... what is your cardinal rule to bring about the "Have Fun" result? _________________ Hotaru no Hishou; a messageboard about games, friends and nothing at all.
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Karae Captain
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 654 Location: Sheffield, UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Does "Try not to kill all the party in the first session" count? |
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vong Jedi
Joined: 30 Aug 2006 Posts: 6699 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm. Have fun is my Main rule. But other then that it would have to be something close to flexible. "Dont let the rules get in the way of the story". Rules are there to help ensue order, but if it gets in the way of a good story, feel free to bend them a bit, either fore or against the players. _________________ The Vong have Arrived
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Golbez Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 102 Location: Fort McMurray Alberta Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Thats a big one Vong.
The Story must flow. If a situation comes up where you are forced to spend thirty minutes comparing rules to figure out a result of a specific situation, it fails to be fun.
I tend to slip in and out of "Cinematic Mode" where I will narrate the action loosely based on the dice. |
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. The story (like the Spice) must flow. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 2065 Location: Kansas
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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I will not fear, for fear is the mind-killer.... _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
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