Climbing/Jumping

Loc Taal · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:06 am Post subject: Climbing/Jumping

It seems weird to me to group these two into one skill. I don't think a skilled climber would necessarily be able to jump very high. I also don't think a high-jumper would necessarily know how to climb a cliff. It seems that these are two very distinct skills. I think it would make sense to split these into separate skills, especially considering there are only five strength skills. Smile

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Son of Fire · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:23 am Post subject:

I agree, the Strength skills are very limited, and nether of the two you mentioned seem to be related enough to warrant them being placed in the same skill block.

I also think that they should have changed the Lift skill to something a bit more all encompassing…like say “Strength Feat” skill or something to that avail.
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Crell Damar · Line Captain Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845

who want's to waste starting D putting that crap into both climbing AND jumping, i mean, come on, you really don't have that many D to work with in the first place...

why call the skill strength feat, just declare that feats of strength require a lifting check, and besides, most feats of an attribute you just roll the attribute dice anyway Razz

"i want to bend a bar"
"ok, roll me your str attribute against the bar's resisitance."

name a situation that you would use your strength feat

Loc Taal · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:07 pm Post subject:

Auron, starting skill dice aside, do you think those two skills are similar enough to warrant one combined skill? Regardless of the number of beginning D you have to make a character or how much it would cost to boost the separate skills, I think they're two distinct skills that really have nothing to do with each other.

Son of Fire, I don't know about the term "Strength Feat"... sounds too much like D&D to me... Wink

I agree the lifting skill is kinda weird. I don't know if you can really be that skilled in lifting something, aside from your God-given strength. I suppose weight lifters do practice technique though... Confused

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Volar the Healer · Jedi Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA

Weightlifters, apprentice brick layers, and stockboys can definately lift more than the average person because of their technique.

I seperated climbing from lifting ages ago. I'm not sure why they were placed together, but I agree with the list that they shouldn't be.
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Crell Damar · Line Captain Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845

the fact that a person with 1D str, can have a 13D lifting and easily lift most things that are way too big for him to touch in the first place seems kinda ridiculous to me... i mean, come on... 1D str...

as for climbing/jumping i've only seen one character in my entire career playing starwars who put anything into that... he was one of my specforce infiltrators, and he specialized in climbing Smile

Loc Taal · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:21 pm Post subject:

I agree, that doesn't make sense that someone with a very low strength can lift huge objects. Technique can only help so much...

Same here as far as boosting that skill. I think I had a sniper character once who boosted it so he could "find high ground". Very Happy

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Volar the Healer · Jedi Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA

Nobody in your urban campaign takes climbing!?" Surprised

A city like Nar Shadaa (The VERTICAL city!) is the perfect place to use climbing...think about it.
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Crell Damar · Line Captain Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845

hell ya, my infiltrator was so good at climbing, he didn't even need rope and crap, he was a literal spider man Smile

makes for some very interesting infiltration when the infiltrator can climb up a sheer wall to get to the roof Very Happy

Volar the Healer · Jedi Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA

...or NPC enemies tormenting you players. Hmmmmmm?
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Loc Taal · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:28 pm Post subject:

Heh... death from above... Very Happy

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Crell Damar · Line Captain Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845

lol... actually... they usually stick to the repulsorcraft...

Crell Damar · Line Captain Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Posts: 845

well... in that game, they're playing low level thugs... and they go for the classic, i'll kick in the door and wastatize the other guys w/ my riot gun...

Loc Taal · Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:32 pm Post subject:

lol

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Volar the Healer · Jedi Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 664 Location: Arizona, USA

Boooooooooring. Give them an enemy they can't reach and perhaps they'll improve. (Just a suggestion of course.) This vertical enemy could be an excellent climber - no, a native of the vertical city! But a poor shot. This way he challenges the players to do something new but isn't too dangerous to them.
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