2 guns

[JorallEpat]

(Notice: I don’t really know anything)

If a player has 2 guns can he fire them in the same turn at different targets without a -1D? And can he shoot both at one thing and combine the damage?

[Ray]

Nope and Nope.

Here's the Houserule that I threw at my GM and he agreed to (Surprising, seeing as it's the first bloody time!!!).

First off, every character, unless stated in his species info, has an "Off-Hand" (Usually, this is the Left Hand.). Any action performed with this hand only is at -1D, period. This can be offset by training yourself to become Ambidexterous ("Right Handed With Both Hands"), which costs 1D of Skills at Character Creation, or 10 Character Points afterwards (With 1 Week of Training per Character Point spend.).

Second off, Blasters Akimbo (Cowboy or John Woo Style Shooting.). When you fire two pistols at the same time, they must be at the same target, and are at -1D To Hit. This can be offset slowly by spending 10 Character Points per Pip (And 1 Days Training per Character Point Spent). After the negative has been completely bought off (Read: 30 Character Points spent), you can now shoot at two targets, one with each pistol, at -1D To Hit, which cannot be brought down. Each shot is handled seperately (Which means two rolls for "one action" in the round), and damage is also resolved seperately as well.

Examples:

Mr. DuVal decides to emulate his buddy Mar Corel and picks up a Blaster in each hand at a Merc that is threatening to do some damage to the Corellian Butterfly. He is not ambidexterous, and has not bought off any of the penalty for "Blasters Akimbo". He makes the first shot with his Right Hand at -1D to hit, and a second shot with his left hand at -2D. This typically means he makes alot of noise and a pretty light show, but not much hurting.

Mar, starting out on his adventures, does the same. He was born ambidexterous (Bought at character creation), but has yet to buy off the "Blasters Akimbo" penalty, so he shoots at the Merc twice with a -1D to each shot.

Later on in his career, Mar is faced with a similar position, but faces two Mercs while he's all alone. He has now bought off the "Blasters Akimbo" and can make like Chow Yun Fatt. He can either shoot twice at one Merc with no penalty, or once at each Merc with a -1D penalty.

[JorallEpat]

Ok, I think I get it now, thanks

[Urhart the Fallen Angel]

I would have a house rule that says you can shoot them both as one action, but at a-2 penalty for the good hand shot, and a -5 penalty for the off hand shot. Isn't that a good idea?
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[Ray]

I just stuck with the -1D idea. Quick, simple.

And the -2/-5 strikes me as too "D20", which, as we all know, is so much in the dark side that the most perverted of the Sith refuse to use it.

[Urhart the Fallen Angel]

fair enough, cuz we all admit that, but a penalty for both sides would make sense I think. Maybe just -1D for off hand would work though...
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[Volo Enrunk]

i don't know if this is right but i think ray was meaning if you go Akimbo. you have a -1d to prime hand and a -2d to off hand? unless your ambidextrous, though if this isn't bought at character creation i would make it cost more than 10 cps, then you have a -1d to each hand. i don't see how the damage wouldn't stack by shooting at the same target +1d as per combined action rules 2nd edition. then beyond this you can buy up to have a no modifier to prime hand and a -1d to off hand. with 30 cps. so you are right handed with both hands no penalties but taking a second action with your other hand -1d... did that make since?
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[Ray]

[Esoomian]

I've always thought that if you were playing a species with more than 2 arms (6-8 would be nice) you could have a blaster pistol in each and simply spray firepower in the general direction...

You wouldn't roll any dice as you can't really say you'r aiming for anyone but anyone who doesn't dodge with a score of 5 or better (all you really have to do is duck as it's not aimed fire) will get hit automatically.

In essence it's simple supression fire

[Ray]

For the species equipped with more than two arms, they're body and minds are designed for it. Typically, they can do as many actions as half their arms with no penalty (If they have four arms, two actions... Six, then three, if it's an odd number, talk to the GM.).

At least, that's how I've read it... Maybe I'm wrong. Often happens.

[Esoomian]

Makes sense I suppose... Seems a bit of an advantage but logically thinking it makes sense.

Octopuses (Octopi?) seem to have no difficulty doing more than one thing with their tenticles at once although often they just use all of their tenticles to achieve a task (like opening a jar)

Nasty so a 6 armed creature could shoot 3 blasters at once without penalty

Don't give that guy any repeating blasters

[Rathe Ehtar]

Statistically, I don't see why someone would use two guns anyway. A heavy blaster pistol has no fire rate so you can just shoot it all you want.
Since the rules don't discuss off-hand stuff, I apply a -5 to the off hand shot total, but really, you could avoid that by just shooting twice with your main hand. I'm a big fan of the double pistol thing myself and I only do it to look cool. 8)
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[Ray]

So you can shoot TWICE as many shots in the same amount of time, Rathe!!!

And... Because it looks so COOL!!!

[Esoomian]

Besides if you're just aiming in a general direction so that people will keep their heads down you shouldn't really need to roll... or the roll should be really easy... but so should the roll to avoid being hit.

And it looks really cool!

Besides say you wanted to hit a speeder that was leaving quickly so you could only get a few shots in before it was out of range if you had a gun in each hand that would be twice as many shots and the size difference should compensate for the lack of accuracy when it comes to hitting it with the gun in your off hand (or hands for the species with above average numbers of limbs)...

You just better hope you roll some really amazing damage rolls if you want to do any damage

[Rathe Ehtar]

Statistically, no. Cinematically, yes. I'm a big fan of the heavy blaster pistol and my character Weiss is a master with them, but their is really no statistical point in using both other than to make the off-hand shot a little worse. Sure, it looks cool and that's why I do it, but if I miss the second shot because of the -5 penalty, I going to get pissed. Besides, Weiss also uses a Blastech Riot gun and with one shot he can hit you five times and that weapon doesn't have a fire rate either.
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