Advanced Skill: Brainwashing ??

keradim · Cadet Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 12

Ok I have heard of this skill but exactly how does this Advanced Skill work?? I know the pre-req.

Thanks

Gry Sarth · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:13 am Post subject:

Never heard of it. But if it indeed exists, I'd guess its pre-requisites would be 5D persuasion/intimidation and you would use to, well, brainwash people, rolling against their willpower.
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keradim · Cadet Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 12

I wonder how many rounds it would take and etc....

Gry Sarth · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:47 am Post subject:

Oh, I don't think that can be done in rounds. Pretty much all Advanced Skills are extended actions, that take hours, days, months or more. You can't brainwash someone in 3 rounds, just like you can't engineer a car in 3 rounds. It takes at least some weeks to accomplish such things.
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vong · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:39 am Post subject:

dot forget the equipment and drugs you will need Razz

i think that braniwashing would be like operating a bacta tank.

you need to have the skill to use the equipment, but it wont work all the time if you roll badly
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Gry Sarth · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

Well, actually there are several brainwashing methods. Some could include advanced machinery, drugs, torture droids, etc. Others could use the dark side of the Force. But others could use simple things like propaganda, subterfuge, sleep-deprivation, fact-manipulation, intricate setups, etc.... So the skills used could range from Medicine, to Scholar: psychology, to Con or Persuade....
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Jedi Skyler · Moff Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440

Gry's right. It depends upon the method, and also a bit on the time you want to take to get it done.

I'd imagine that a player attempting this in a quicker than normal fashion might have to follow a table similar to the one for jury-rigging equipment. They can try it, but there might be serious consequences! Wink

cheshire · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:51 am Post subject:

It's also a matter of how extensive the brain-washing is. I talked to a guy who was a professor in the Soviet Union and he talked about methods they were supposed to use in promoting communism.

For periods of time they would assign intollerable loads of homework intended to sleep deprive students, and that would make them more impressionable to the ideas they were supposed to be internalizing.

Brainwashing is a complicated matter that has varying levels of effectiveness. I think you could write a small book on how to incorporate this into game terms.

keradim · Cadet Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 12

Ok thanks everyone for your input...

Jedi Skyler · Moff Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440

NP. That's what we're here for! Wink

masque · Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject:

Kayle Skolaris · Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:36 am Post subject:

Brainwashing can be found in the Truce at Bakura sourcebook. It is a LONG and COMPLEX description, but if you absolutely gotta have it, I'm sure I could find some way to get it to you. Scan it, maybe.

garhkal · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 8:53 am Post subject:

That would be great.

As a side question. Would you allow this skill tobe used ON your pcs by an npc??
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vong · Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:48 am Post subject:

well, if you have read the x-wing series, they did a different techinque of brainwashing, is that they were programmed to do a certain task. so you can do brainwashing subtly. you know, they are supposed to rescue person x, and there are stormtroopers around, have him 'miss' the troopers and shoot the target. or have one of the members keep missing the enemy and hitting friends. lots ofo ways to do that.

and in the truce at bakura, it is not exactly a standard description of brain washing, it is teh ssi-ruuk method, and they have other means Razz

the more standard method is that in the movies, you have lots of drugs, lots of pain, little sleep or food Smile

i beleive in the lusyankya book there is a prety good description of breaking points. but id say off the top of my head, youd need about a month. a week at the minimum (unless you find a new way to do it as in another of the x-wing series books - project graveyard)
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