Combat with characters and vehicles.

[Savaad]

Would a person inside of a vehicle use their dodge skill to dodge a shot fired at them while in a vehicle? I used to do it that way, but then figured out that if the vehicle already dodged, could the character just use that for their dodge.
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[Gry Sarth]

If you're the driver, it would be preferable to use your Repulsorlift Operation (or other pertinent skill) to steer the vehicle away from the attack. Dodging while driving would be a tricky action, since you can't move around that much without losing control of the vehicle. As the driver, you'll suffer Multiple Action penalties from keeping the vehicle under control and dodging at the same time. Now, if you're a passenger, dodge away to your heart's content, you don't have much of a choice....
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[garhkal]

Altough i could see some penalties assigned, as there is not much space to dodge into....
BUT remember you do get cover!
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[Savaad]

I think the point I was trying to get across, is would the drivers dodge roll for the vehicle count as your dodge roll to avoid attack.
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[garhkal]

[Gry Sarth]

Sure, that's what a Vehicle Dodge is for.
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[Pel]

I agree. The only situation that might differ is if the firing vehicle (or passengers in it) were trying to shoot a specific passenger in the target vehicle, rather than shooting the target vehicle itself.

Since that's more difficult than just shooting the vehicle itself, I'd toss in the pilot's dodge roll plus cover modifiers and maybe a partial dodge from the targeted passenger. I'd use a partial dodge (if any) because there should always be a chance of success and there's probably not much room to maneuver. Thoughts?
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[Savaad]

I can somewhat agree, but that's getting a little to off the path. The way I would do it is, let the passenger in the vehicle that is getting shot either: take the vehicle's dodge, the cover, or their own dodge. Does this make any sense?
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[garhkal]

[Pel]

Unless it changed in R&E, it does both. If the shooter exceeds the base difficulty, but does not beat the cover modifier, then the shot hits the covering object. Strengths of sample objects are given in the blue book. The weapon rolls normal damage vs. the strength of the covering object.

If a kill result is achieved vs. the object, the full damage goes through. Severe damage is -1D to weapon damage that gets through to target; heavy damage -2D; light damage -3D; stunned result or lower blocks the entire shot.
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[Savaad]

Whatever the case is, cover and concealment don't count if you dodge anyway. You modifiers or you get your dodge roll, not both.
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[Pel]

That's true if you're describing a static situation with a stationary target behind cover. For the moving speeder example, I'm unaware of any official precedent. My interpretation is pilot's dodge (if any), plus cover modifiers.
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