Vader's stats??

garhkal · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:19 am Post subject: Vader's stats??

I have looked through both my main 2nd ed rules book, the rules book for 2nd ed R&E and the imp source book, but cannot find stats for Vader... Can anyone help?
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Chabit Rane · Commander Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 460

Vader's stats can be found in the Star Wars Sourcebook.

Also in GGs 1, 3 and 5.

Hope it helps.

Hellcat · Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject:

These stats should be from GG5

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Firehawk0220 · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 11:56 am Post subject:

Jedi Skyler · Moff Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440

That you've seen, at any rate.

For that matter, neither had OB1 before EPI III- again, that we know of. And yet he simply picked one up (in a precarious position, mind you,) lined up his aim, and took several shots which ALL hit their mark spot-on, finishing General Grievous.

For all we know, this might be simply a nod to Vader's incredible combat prowess, noting an innate talent for anything related to fighting.

Or, it could simply be some knucklehead who assumes that EVERYONE just HAS to have a Blaster skill, whether or not there's a legitimate reason for it... Rolling Eyes

Allst Beamem · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

Darth Windu · Lieutenant Commander Joined: 01 Dec 2005 Posts: 112

I imagine that at one point in their careers, all jedi would have used a blaster.
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garhkal · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:22 am Post subject:

I can see that. Getting fellow jedi with blasters lined up on one side of a chamber, with jedi knights to be on the other... using powered down blasters to test their defensiveness.
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hisham · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:36 am Post subject:

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a blaster shooting range at the Jedi Temple. Since, blasters in the galaxy are a common weapon.

Tradition says Jedi carry lightsabers as weapons. But no where does it say that they can't use a blaster, if need be.
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Akari · Commander Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 256

I believe blaster skill is quite mandatory, at least for a lightside jedi. You can set a blaster to stun (when you don't want to kill your opponent) but thats kinda difficult to do with a saber.

Firehawk0220 · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:06 am Post subject:

I disagree with the whole blaster thing. Droids can serve to shoot at Padawans in much the same manner the training remote does. I see no reason why a person would do it.

Plus, I believe Obi-Wan was using the Force to operate the weapon. As such, I would seriously doubt Jedi would have blaster skills, train with them or use them. The Jedi are trained from the age of around 5 to adulthood to use the lightsaber. Jedi are very defensive fighters and as a result would not need to use a weapon such as a blaster. Plus other than Obi-Wan's use of the blaster in EPIII there is no precident for Jedi using blasters.

Now, does that mean that a Jedi can't take an interest in them and shoot at a range and build skill with such a weapon, of course not. I just find it unlikely.

Pel · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:24 am Post subject:

I find the Jedi - blaster connection quite plausible. Akari had an excellent point regarding stunning opponents, a very Jedi thing to do.

There is precedent for the more combat-oriented Jedi to carry and use blasters in the Jedi Academy games. Obi-Wan can scoff all he wants, but in my opinion, the smart Jedi knows how to use all sorts of weapons and methods. At least all of ours have.
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Jedi Skyler · Moff Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440

Certainly the Jedi are taught primarily to use the lightsaber. Since they're all taught to respect life, and trained that when they HAVE to kill, they're to do it looking the being right in the eyes (hence the lightsaber- a MELEE weapon- being their primary mode of offense/defense).

But in practical terms, it's going to be a LOOOOONG time before a character is built up to the point where they're skilled enough to ONLY take a lightsaber into battle every time and walk out unscathed, or relatively close to it. In that meantime, while they're building up their skills, there will be reasons for a Jedi to have a blaster skill.

...Say, for instance, you happen to be standing before Jabba's throne, having been unable to simply waltz in carrying your lightsaber, and wish to rid the galaxy of his vile putridness... Sure, he didn't get the shot off, nor would anything less than an eye shot do much to the Hutt, but you get the point. You have to be able to use what's available. Wink

Firehawk0220 · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject:

Orgaloth · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

All very convincing arguments. And all I can say, is "Run in your game how you want it". If you think Vader haveing blaster as a skill is silly, take it off or change it for something else.

Just my opinion 8)
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