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Chabit Rane Commander
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 460
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 2:21 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you on that Akari. For one, whats the fun in a game if you don't have a chance at all of succeeding. I know I would not want to play. I also don't like playing in a game when I don't have a chance to fail too. |
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Firehawk0220 Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 151 Location: Dallas, TX.
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Akari wrote: | In my opinion thats a very poor way to go... There are definately Jedi that survived both the clone wars and the purge (Ikrit for instance) and why shouldnt a player character do the same? Being destined to die makes for such a nasty outlook...
For me, Star Wars was and always has been a fun and action-packed game system that lives by the story of the underdog coming through against improbable odds. Why quench that? While its true that Jedi characters have a rather high chance of perishing, chances should be there they can make it. Let your players feel they accomplished something incredible! Its worth it. |
I see what you are saying. Perhaps I should refraise.
I'll let them know survival is next to impossible. Few to almost no Jedi survived the purge and survived up to A New Hope or beyond. So any Jedi playing in that era would have a next to impossible task of surviving.
And boy would I make it difficult. But not impossible.
I rarely if ever have played in that era, and only one or two people have even bothered to try being a Jedi during that time. They were killed due to bad die rolls pretty quickly and I never did it again. |
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Akari Commander
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 256
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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Ok, thats a little less severe then what I originally thought. Jedis can become incredibly powerful and should be restricted to the full extend of the rules. As mentioned before I do play one myself in a campaign and its a lot of fun. A young Padawan that is, without a current master and about 2 dice in all force skills and no lightsaber of course. Pretty much everybody else is far more useful in conflicts, but I manage to come up with some good plans now and then and its been a lot of fun and quite a challenge to play her.
Even some of her teammembers don't know about her powers, and I would think (hope?) they are still beyond what the emperor would sense, so I still have some hope for her survival. |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: |
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So long as your Jedi doesn't do anything obvious ("Hey, Vader! I'm a Jedi!") and steers clear of the occasional High Inquisitor, Sith Lord, or Emperor, you should be ok.
Low-intensity Force use is the key. Don't do anything flashy or power-intensive, or if you do, make certain you're far from anyone likely to pick it up. _________________ Aha! |
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Darth_rockdawg Cadet
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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I am listening to the book Dark Lord - Rise of Darth Vader. In it it has where there are like 5 or 6 jedi that are together and survive the end of the story. It seems The Emporer and Vader can care less at the end of the story.
It is a good story. _________________ Impressive, Most Impressive. |
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Pel Line Captain
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 983 Location: Texas
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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What is it with arch-villains and arrogance? It gets them every time.
I agree. It was a good story. Gave a little closure to the Anakin / Vader transformation. _________________ Aha! |
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Jedi Skyler Moff
Joined: 07 Sep 2005 Posts: 8440
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I've heard that whole trilogy is good; I need to read it sometime soon.
Anyway, as for Jedi during the Rebellion, I'm playing one in each of two different games right now; one about a year after EPI III, and one about six months after EPI III.
The one further into the timeline is only 15 years old, has managed to be assigned to the crew of DuCass' Dream, and has been adventuring with them. One of the other newer members is a Besalisk Jedi.
Currently, the crew is in Imperial custody. Some of us were accosted on Tattooine by one of Palpatine's dark Jedi, although we don't yet know all the details about him. I imagine he was originally tracking Bandon, but my character is the one who ended up fighting him, until Qassar flew in and saved our butts. Up till that point, no one in the crew knew I was a Padawan; I'd been using the Force mainly to help me make important rolls, but nothing flashy. Even Bandon hadn't detected my Force use until we were on Tatooine.
Now, we're awaiting the arrival of Lord Vader himself, who's very interested in meeting the both of us.
This is gonna SUCK if we can't escape... |
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Rasputiza Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 107
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Just one thought: weren't jedi almost utterly wiped out by Vader immediatly after Palpatine rise to the throne?
Weren't (according to the "official timeline" Yoda and Ben the only two Jedi survived?
I'd like to know how you dealt with this sort of "purist" issue (not that i'm a purist, but some of my players could easyly rise this issue...)
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Gry Sarth Jedi
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 5304 Location: Sao Paulo - Brazil
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Vader might hape wiped out MOST of the Jedi, but surely a few of them slipped through the cracks. They have been popping backup in the EU for years.... One year after Order 66, it's quite feasible that Skyler's Jedi might still be alive and kicking (though obviously not for long). Further down the line, Jedi become a rare species indeed, with Yoda and Ben the only prominent ones. _________________ "He's Gry Sarth, of course he has the stats for them." |
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Jedi Skyler Moff
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Gry's right. My character could very well survive, but in "canon" terms would have to eventually make his way out to the Rim Territories or something, well out of the mainstream, simply because every Jedi character that is played during the Rebellion Era is a potential paradox to the main story line.
But there were plenty of Jedi descendants who survived, whether by lack of training, lack of accessibility, or even having turned to the dark side for a time. Otherwise there would have been no one to be the first class of Luke's Jedi Praxeum. |
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Rasputiza Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 107
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Yes, this sounds sensible, even if (as long as it concerns the Jedi Praxeum pupils) it might be possible that new individuals strong in the Force might pop up from unexpected directions (i.e. families never before touched by the Jedy carreer: just think how Anakin was found....)...
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005 Posts: 14168 Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Problem is, too many of these /new\ jedi popping out of the woodwork kind of gives some of us a bad taste, as it makes those who worked to get their 'jedi hood' seem less important. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Darth_rockdawg Cadet
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: |
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My opinion on this is that you should start a charater out as if he has no training and has kind of figured out how to float wrenches to himself that our just out of reach and what not. Nothing too tough.
I would have a problem with the GM letting someone bring a full fledged Jedi in unless it was before RoTS. _________________ Impressive, Most Impressive. |
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Orgaloth Vice Admiral
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 3754 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Darth_rockdawg wrote: | My opinion on this is that you should start a charater out as if he has no training and has kind of figured out how to float wrenches to himself that our just out of reach and what not. Nothing too tough. |
Just like Silent Bob did to the video tape in Mallrats 8) _________________ "I take orders from just one person: Me!"
"You know, sometimes I amaze even myself."
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Darth_rockdawg Cadet
Joined: 26 Sep 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Exactly.
Snooky Boochy!! _________________ Impressive, Most Impressive. |
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