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| Should WHITE be allowed as a lightsaber blade color? |
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| No, because there are no crystals that allow them |
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| No, because you can't have white without black |
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| No, but I don't know why |
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boldulyses
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...wow...
My philosophical tendencies have lost a tendon... Beautiful work!
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Jedi Skyler
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That's deep, man! WAYYYY deep!  |
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Morgan
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
sorry I've let a little my pc during chrismass and co... 
thanks for your answers
garhkal said:
| Quote: | | Well big thing there, is how many people know about cortis's properties. heck, even master skywalker did not know, til Mara Jade said somethign to him about it. |
Kyle kartan could too  ... but that's true everyone can't know the cortose's properties.
I don't think the color of the light saber change with the good and bad. When a jedi loot a light saber (obi-wan in epI, and anakin in epII and III) it's not change color. the light saber is weapown, an object nothing more. Like the katana for a samouraļ.
And for the red jewel than the bad guy always have that's because the siths always create a synthetical jewel and this one is red. I know the green and blue are the more easy to find that's why we see them a lot.
Perhaps Boomer find the true reason I know that Mass Windu have not use the same type of generator than the other jedi for his saber. |
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Jedi Skyler
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Remember that traditionally, Jedi do not use synthetics unless it's an absolute emergency. They'd go on a quest to find a genuine, natural crystal. During the Clone Wars, the Jedi did use synthetics, but only because it was a much quicker solution, and time (and personnel) were in such short supply.
And the color doesn't change just because someone new picks it up. Although, if you want to get technical about red HAVING to be a Sith color, think about this: Mace Windu's personal lightsaber Form can only be used by someone who has at least one DSP. So, knowing that, and adding in the theory that (traditionally at least) red sabers are for baddies, he must be using a lightsaber with multiple jewels- one red, one blue- to come up with the purple blade.
Interesting, huh?
p.s. Now, having said that, YES, there are purple crystals out there. My point here is simply running with the "RED=BAD" theory. |
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Tahlorn
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Yes, you can have a white lightsabre in the game, if you want. Makes you unique!
Apologies if this has already been stated, I did not read through all of the posts.
Ignoring what the other colors represent, I am taking a simple look as to why a white lightsabre was not represented in the movies. I have two looks upon this:
1) If, say, Luke had a White sabre, a lot of people would say "Hey! That is the color of good!" and thus would feel hokey, and making the red lightsabres thus be "Oh look he is evil!" rather than an ominous thing. Also, if anyone else were to have a White sabre, the same mentality would carry through, causing movie viewers to think that the bearer is pure and good and rightious. Again, hokey.
2) White doesn't look as cool in film than a vibrant blue, green, or red, especially with the special effects that they had back when the movies were made. Not as visually interesting/stimulating.
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Gry Sarth
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If you look at Ralph McQuarrie's concept art of Vader battling Luke (the one where Luke's wearing breathing gear), you'll note that Luke has a white saber and Vader has a blue one. Also, in the concept art of the lightsaber-wielding stormtrooper, there appears to be only white sabers. I really believe George ditched the white saber because it simply doesn't translate well to screen. It lacks life and contrast.
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Jedi Skyler
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| That's exactly it, Gry. He'd originally intended for ALL lightsabers to be white; when they were doing the effects they found that white doesn't translate well onto the screen, and went to other colors instead. |
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Boomer
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Skyler has it right there.
And now that colors are in play, any color that you find thematically appropriate to the character, use it.
I have allowed pink, dark blue, white, and silverish gray. Those are the only odd colors ever asked for, at least in my opinion.
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Draylo Star
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| Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Gry where could i see the concept art i want to see luke in the breather |
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Gry Sarth
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Esjs
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Wow. Frankly I'm surprised this thread has stayed active as long as it has.
Just to weigh in my opinions (which echo many that have already been stated)...
I believe the lightsaber color is based only on the crystal used. Because it is emitting "light" I believe only the colors that visible light contain are valid for lightsabers.
| MA-3PO wrote: | The Power of the Jedi sourcebook for D20 mentions on page 55:
"Before the Battle of Ruusan, Jedi had access to that world's crystal deposits and crystals of every known hue. With the detonation of the Sith thought bomb, Ruusan crystals the became unavailable. During the height of the Jedi Order, throughout the Rise of the Empire era, and until the end of the Rebellion era, Jedi could only use crystals retrieved from the caves on Ilum. As a result, the blades of their weapons were always either blue or green-the only colors those crystals could produce. Throughout the reign of the Emporer, the few Jedi who survived had to rely on handed-down lightsabers or crystals liberated from Imperial-held worlds.
By the time Luke Skywalker revived the Jedi Order at his Jedi academy on Yavin 4, the Empire was gone. Long-forgotten sources of crystals opened up again. Skywalker even revived the ancient Jedi tradition of imbuing commonly available crystals with Force energies an using them in lightsabers. His students, following this procedure, crafted their lightsabers in a wide variety of colors.
The lightsaber blades used by darksiders vary wildly in color, presumably because they have access to other sources of crystals than Jedi do. Sith lightsaber blades are almost always red, however. The Sith apparently had a large supply of the crystals that produced red blades, and their dark natures favored blades the color of blood." |
I like this explanation. It really does offer a valid reason (or "excuse") for something that was brought about by filmmaking decisions.
So Mace Windu built (or inherited) his lightsaber with a crystal that is considered rare by the time of Ep. I. So, colors such as yellow, orange, white, etc. are rare because the crystals are so rare.
Back to my point about light. Pure visible light is white (all colors), so a white-bladed saber would need a clear crystal to allow all the light through. Thus, I don't think I could understand "black" blades. A black crystal would allow no light through.
But I've also taken the (dichomotic, yet unrealistic) point of view that "dark" can be emitted just like light. Thus, just as light hitting an object can cast a dark shadow, darkness hitting an object can cast a light shadow. In this case, yes, a "black" blade could exist. 
Thanks to everybody who have responded so far. This has been a great discussion.
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Jedi Skyler
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| No prob, Jess! Anything having to do with the Jedi has always been my favorite part about SW, so I'm always happy to ramble about 'em! |
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Draylo Star
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Gry thanks for the pics it is pretty cool looking |
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Exoviper
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Hey, I have an idea! I know they have blade length adjustments, but how about blade WIDTH? Imagine flipping a switch that widens the blade to about 2 feet! Now you can deflect those walker-scale blasts!!
Or how about some sort of ranged slash? Perhaps the device that reverses the flow of the beam could create some sort of energized "pressure slash that cuts a lightning-fast wave with lower damage.
Any way to translate this into game terms?
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Jedi Skyler
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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I dunno about that one... I've a feeling that if you even COULD adjust the width of the blade in that manner, you'd really be sacrificing blade strength, and the result wouldn't be powerful enough to repel that kind of firepower.
Not to mention the sheer physical force of such a bolt... If it blows you off your feet normally, how would you be able to stand there and deflect a hailstorm of such fire? Personally I don't see this one happening. |
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