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 Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:16 pm Post subject: Reverse-Stating Starships with D6 Space. |
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Has anyone attempted to reverse stat known SWU ships using the ship design rules from D6 Space? It's something that just occured to me on the road, and I haven't had a chance to browse D6 Space Ships yet. Anyone already ahead of me on this?
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Maybe it's just me, but the ship design system in D6 Space is really clunky. It might be a little better if you were working from the worksheet provided in the book, but just reading through gave me a bit of a headache.
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Raven Redstar
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So, upon further review... each ship has a 5 page worksheet to build it. I know that for the most part, you'd be just copying the stats and then figuring out how to do it within the system, but I'm wondering to what end? Why re-work everything through D6 Space?
Although, a cool thing that could be added for Fighters with Hyperdrive are the additions of turning the cockpit into a Cryo-Stasis pod for the pilot to be able to go into suspended animation for the duration of long distance trips. Except that it doesn't really feel very "Star Wars".
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CRMcNeill
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The main reason I asked is that a weakness of the Tramp Freighters ship modification system is that it does not take into account the base mass of the ship when installing a new drive. The D6 Space system includes that factor in a ship's design (IIRC), which would allow ship designers to factor in relative mass and drive strength when calculating changes in performance when a new drive is installed.
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Naaman
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| Seems like the easiest thing to do would be to male a formula whereby the drive's base speed is divided by the ship's mass "code" (you would ha e to assign a mass code to each ship, or at least each type of ship). |
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| Quote: | | The main reason I asked is that a weakness of the Tramp Freighters ship modification system is that it does not take into account the base mass of the ship when installing a new drive. The D6 Space system includes that factor in a ship's design (IIRC), which would allow ship designers to factor in relative mass and drive strength when calculating changes in performance when a new drive is installed. |
One problem with using D6 Space's system is that you can have 2 ships that are of similar configurations with vastly different mass ratings.
2 Example Strike fighters (1 man starfighters) One has Tonnage at 84 and the other at 245.
Plus, tonnage increases with faster drives, but doesn't take the ship's tonnage into account when determining speed.
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CRMcNeill
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| FVBonura wrote: | | It would be nice if we could consolidate threads speaking on the same subject. I share what I'm doing to update the Ship Creation System from D6 Space/D6 Spaceships in this thread. |
There are far too many ship design threads to do that without making a jumble of it. Using links to cross-attach is a decent alternative.
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| Quote: | | FVBonura wrote: | | It would be nice if we could consolidate threads speaking on the same subject. I share what I'm doing to update the Ship Creation System from D6 Space/D6 Spaceships in this thread. |
There are far too many ship design threads to do that without making a jumble of it. Using links to cross-attach is a decent alternative. |
Right. We can split threads where warranted, but we cannot combine threads. If there are multiple threads about the same thing, it is often best to just bump the most recent one out of them.
Bumping older ones at the same time threads you are using tends to create confusing situations where there are two different threads and tends to split replies, so please don't do that.
I have the ability to lock threads (and edit links to newer threads into other people's posts), and I will do that as I deem necessary. Now that this 2017 thread has been unnecessarily bumped, I went ahead and locked it.
Per the forum guidelines, please do not cross-post things in multiple threads. If there are already two recent posts going about the same thing, feel free to post a link in a thread to another thread were your reply is. If there is only one thread going, just leave it that way.
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