First Edition Conversion Project

[Whill]

Happy New Year to the Rancor Pit Community!

I've had a project on the back burner for a while that I thought would be something relatively easy for the community to pitch in and get done. I would like to create a single PDF document that serves as a stats conversion resource for all WEG Star Wars first edition books (or parts thereof) that where not ever republished by WEG in second edition form. So anyone that wanted to use one of these 1e resources or adventures would only need this single PDF to use/run it in 2e. I'm thinking it would be easiest to just repeat stats under each book section (like all the adventures that have stormtrooper stats). That way everything a GM would need would be all in one place for each adventure.

If stats for an item in a 1e work were published under a different 2e work, we can use that if it makes more sense than straight conversion. If multiple WEG 2e sources contradict each other, later stats will probably take priority over the earlier stats. We are going to just stick with 2e RAW without any house rules, and in the uncommon cases that it may make a difference, it will use R&E over the original 2e.

For the most part it will be straight 1e to 2e conversion, but there may be a few cases where updating stats with respect to EU continuity (subsequent to its appearance in 1e WEG) may be warranted. (For example, I thought that I had already created a 2e stat block for Mar Barezz updated in such a way, but I can't find it.) If there happens to be Canon continuity for a stat subject, I suppose we could incorporate that as long as it does not contradict anything in the EU or its use in the WEG 1e products, but for this project, the EU has priority over Canon (and WEG has primacy in cases where the EU later contradicted WEG).

The stat blocks used should be close to how they appear in R&E. I reserve the right for the document's final edit, but anyone and everyone is free to pitch in with 2e stat block creation, stat editing, document formatting, and discussion of these things. Each contributor will be given a suitable credit for the amount of work he puts into it. Let's make it a new year's resolution to complete this project in 2020. Here are the 1e works not republished in 2e (or not completely republished in 2e):

"Rebel Breakout" from Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (first edition, 1987) p. 100
"To Free the Forgotten" from The Star Wars Rules Companion p. 67
Battle for the Golden Sun
Scavenger Hunt
Crisis on Cloud
Otherspace
Otherspace II: Invasion
Black Ice
The Isis Coordinates
Planet of the Mists
Mission to Lianna
Cracken's Rebel Field Guide

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[Whill]

To get the ball rolling, here are to-do lists that I had created for the first three 1e works on the above list...


"Rebel Breakout" from Star Wars: The Roleplaying Game (first edition, 1987) p. 100

Difficulty Ranges
5
10
15
20
p.100 – GM intro preparing to play – templates?
Equipment from Tiree p. 101
6 headset comlinks (Mechanical or Communications)
5 ten-meter ropes
4 glow rods
6 blaster pistols
20 blaster ammo packs
4 smoke grenades
4 grenades
p.102 – Encounter 3 Mynocks – movement rules, attack rules R&E page reference
Mynock stats
p.103 – R2-D0 – CA5 p.97
Medium Repeating Blaster
Stormtroopers (including core page reference)
heavy blast doors (Encounter 8, p. 104-105) - Technical, Computer Programming/Repair or Security
ISB Agent Mar Barezz (w/ thermal detonator) p. 106
Tiree (Tay Vanis) p. 107 – wound status? returning him to consciousness?
AT-AT Walkers
Y-Wing Fighters (2-man)


"To Free the Forgotten" from The Star Wars Rules Companion p. 67

Major Lariss p. 69
Lt. Wachten (Wrathor)
Lt. Lewis (Conciliator)
Stormtroopers p. 70
Drop Pod
Rolo's Ruffians p. 71
Volq
Captain Dedelin p. 72
Dedelin's "Crew"
p.73 Dexterity -> swimming
Old Guards p. 74
p.74 fatigue?
TIE/rc Fighters
TIE Pilots
Blast Cannon (speeder)
Millennium Falcon
Han Solo
Chewbacca


Battle for the Golden Sun

Rekara
Pek, Sedrian Priest
Karak, Renegade Leader
Commander Aban and Seatroopers
Space Boat Explorer
ship's equipment/weapons
glider-sails
speeder-rafts

p.5 Perception ->sensors
p.6 planetary systems -> sensors
Waveskimmer p.8
water rules?
correct language rules? p. 9
High Priest Cardo p. 11
Priest of the Sun
Warrior Monks
Citizens, Pilgrims, and Renegades
weapons (spear guns)
ignore stun rules on p.12, use raw (add R&E page reference)
probe droid p. 16
aquatic garrison personnel and vehicles p. 17
Imperial Technicians
Stormtroopers
Security Troopers
Laser Canon (vehicles)
sabotage Main Generators, Technical?
Twenchok, p. 23
p.24 Detention Block: streetwise -> willpower? bureaucracy -> law enforcement
p.24 bacta tank difficulties (first aid and medicine), but is there time?
ignore combined actions rules on p.26, use raw (add R&E page reference)
stinger fish, p. 27
Golden Sun stats? p. 29
AT-AT Swimmer p. 33-34 (including repulsor field)
p.34 Perception -> tactics
p.34 hide/sneak
p.36 streetwise -> tactics
Dragob p. 37
Spodan
Anemone Farm / Dexterity -> swimming movement
Glish
Tooch p. 38
Burborok
K'hondo
Porm
p.40 bargain -> persuasion
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[CRMcNeill]

Well, you’re welcome to use any of my stats (I saw a few matches in the list), and I can put some work in on the ones I haven’t done. Personally, I’d rather replace the AT-AT Swimmer with an aquatic variant of the Gamma, but that’s just me...
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The CRMcNeill Stat/Rule Index

[Whill]

[Ziz]

I've been debating fooling with this in my spare time. Is there a formula/chart for converting 1E to 2E, and it's just a matter of working through each adventure/campaign and collating the data? Can you post a sample before/after so I can tell if I'm doing it right?

[Whill]

[Ziz]

Ok, so looking at your spreadsheet, part of it is just reading through the 1e version and translating terminology from a general skill to a more specific 2e one, right? The difficulty/die roll numbers remain the same?

[Whill]

[Ziz]

Ok, so tell me if I'm doing this correct. Using a typical stormtrooper as an example -

1E - page 103
STR 2D, brawling 3D
DEX 2D, blaster 4D, brawling parry 4D, dodge 4D
All else 2D

2E/RE - page 209
STR 2D, brawling 3D
DEX 3D, blaster pistol 4D, blaster rifle 5D, brawling parry 4D, dodge 4D
All else 2D

Is that all there is to it?

[Whill]

[klhaviation]

I feel like one could create Classic Adventures volume 6-9 out of the adventures. After R&R is complete, I would like to work on this (and Adventure journal 16 and 17). I'm bad at conversions.... I'm a designer not a game guru. If you get the stat blocks worked out, I can set up a document template to look like Classic Adventures vol 5 format. I think there is more than enough to fill out 3 more books and complete the 1st Ed.

Crackens Field guide is a bit harder. The jury rigging rules are already published, but things like the computer power rules need some thought.

[Whill]

In my research to find stats for Agent Tiree and R2-D0 for the "Rebel Breakout" adventure, I rediscovered the "Rookies: No Turning Back" web comic adaptation (there's also a comic adaptation of the events leading up the adventure). For the "Rebel Breakout" 2e stats section, I'd like to beef it up with images from the Rookies comic. I'm thinking I'd also like to stat out the Rookies rebels as pre-gen starting characters that are included for possible use in the adventure since we have images of them available.

Agent Tiree (Tay Vanis) and Deo reappeared in The Game Chambers of Questal adventure which has a 2e adaptation appearing in Classic Adventures v5. Tiree was never statted out in 1e or 2e at all, but Deo was statted out in both 1e and 2e for the The Game Chambers of Questal. So I've got a basis for Deo's stats. In re-skimming "Rebel Breakout" I noticed a couple other things that I missed in my first list that need addressed. I updated the list in the second post of this thread.

There are several instances throughout the adventure where the difficulty of an action is provided in text as 5, 10, 15, or 20. I want to start this first section of the document with a chart that correlates those to the 2e chart with ranges and difficulty level names (but complete the chart with the remaining 2e difficulty levels for the sake of completeness). And I'll include the short-form stormtrooper stats in the sequence of where they first appear in relation to the other stats in the adventure (and for every adventure), but I think I'll just have the long-form stormtrooper stats in an Appendix of the whole document as they appear in most every adventure.