The Str 7D Esoomian

[garhkal]

[KageRyu]

[Dr. Bidlo]

Do you recall which scenes? I do not reme.ber seeing Chewy absorb blaster shot, so would've to check it out myself.

[KageRyu]

[garhkal]

[pakman]

[KageRyu]

My post was clearly taken out of context an distorted. I was not saying those species could not wear armor, I was offering difficulties that large and more inhuman sapient might have finding armor off their home world. I also pointed out in the case of wookies, even on their home world they are unlikely to find it based on official sources, materials, and depictions. Another reason Wookies might not wear a lot of armor and protective garments is all the fur. It is not hard to imagine it getting caught in joints, pulling, chafing, and being uncomfortable in general. Given the volume and length of said fur, I do not see how that can be easily resolved in a design capacity for armor. Can't speak to the other alien species mentioned, haven't read up on them or looked into them.

I believe I did mention that they could pay to have it custom made which you also throw out there more casually. Custom making armor requires finding someone with the skill and willingness. Given much of the weapons and armor in Star Wars appear to be mass produced it is not really likely that a PC will walk into a factory and get them to retool the assembly lines. Typically custom made anything can be 100 to 1000 times base costs.

Sure Players with the Armor Repair skill could make it themselves, but this will not only take money, time, and materials, but require spending CP per the rules in various books regarding increasing die codes of equipment (from 0D non existent to whatever they are attempting). If a PC is that determine and has the CP to spend so be it.

From your response pakman I get the impression you not only hand waved off any information in posts that go against your intent, but as a GM I think you likely hand wave away a lot of rules or story elements to make things to simple (as by your post you state just throw down credits or build it themselves which leaves a lot of details and elements out). As you said though, whatever works for YOUR game. You were not the only person I was providing the information or ideas I did for.
_________________
"There's a set way to gain new Force Points and it represents a very nice system, where you're rewarded for heroism, not for being a poor conductor to electricity." ~Jachra

[pakman]

Not ignoring anything - and if I reduce a large amount of text to what I feel is a salient point (i.e. a lot of words being a narrative justification) just giving my perspective. Not trying to be rude - just brief.

(side note: as crafter and person who has metal fabrication and manufacturing experience - there is a difference between re-tooling a factory line to make 1000 sets of armor, and taking an existing set of armor, and modifying it to fit someone taller).

I am already reworking many of the rules in my game - and one of my goals is to treat what I feel are core issues - rather than symptoms - but some of these changes may be too extensive for others - who have different solutions - and if those work for them, that is a great

Not everyone wants a ton of house rules. To each their own.

May the dice be with you.
_________________
SW Fan, Gamer, Comic, Corporate nerd.
Working on massive House Rules document - pretty much a new book. Will post soon....

[DougRed4]

I understand both sides of this discussion, and have dealt with a number of Power Gamers and Min/Maxers over the years myself.

My son plays one of our two venerable, experienced characters in the PC party. He's a Barabel and the 'muscle' of the group, and he definitely is a tank. He is outstanding at combat (and is also a weapons dealer, so not just a one-trick pony). His DEX is 4D and his STR is 5D (and also has natural armor that gives +2D against Physical and +1D against Energy).

Early on, we came to understand the "Blaster-Proof Wookiee" problem. So I came up with a house rule that has mitigated this for us greatly. The Dazed condition (which stacks with Stunned). So it becomes quite easy for that big tough character to be neutralized in a fight, especially with numerous other foes (even smaller ones).

Dazed Characters

Characters who are hit in combat, but who succeed on their Strength roll to resist damage, are considered to be dazed. A dazed character suffers a penalty of 1D to skill and attribute rolls until the end of their next action. A character hit multiple times in this fashion can be dazed twice (or more), but they are not “affected” beyond that. Being dazed does not count as being stunned, but it is cumulative with stunned results. It also does not apply to Brawling attacks where the defender’s Strength is double that of the attacker.

I realize not everybody wants house rules. But for me/us this works to keep that high STR character from being a problem. Want to put a couple of extra dice in STR as opposed to things like KNO? Feel free, but it doesn't mean you're going to be able to have blaster bolts bouncing off of you like Superman.

Also, I've seen each of the OT movies many, many times (ANH literally dozens). I don't recall ever seeing Chewbacca shrug off a blaster bolt. Perhaps a very specific instance could be spelled out?
_________________
Currently Running: Villains & Vigilantes (a 32-year-old campaign with multiple groups) and D6 Star Wars; mostly on hiatus are Adventures in Middle-earth and Delta Green

[garhkal]

The ONLY time i've seen him even HIT by a bolt, was in the force awakens..
_________________
Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk!

[Esoomian]

Pretty late to the thread but I've played a 7D strength Esoomian character for a few years and while he was able to shrug off blaster bolts to a large degree there were always situations that were able to appropriately threaten him.

Surprisingly melee combat was an issue. Parry skills were dex based and there are a fair few melee weapons that are Strength +2D damage or more so that a strength 4/5 character was a challenging opponent.

Space combat was of course always an issue. A high strength doesn't help with explosive decompression at all.

The main thing that kept him in check was that the game master ruled that Esoomians were an illegal/prohibited species and were not permitted to leave their home world. This meant he had to always be in disguise and try not to draw attention to himself. He didn't always succeed but it stopped him from hulking out at every opportunity.
_________________
Don't waste money on expensive binoculars.

Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view.

[Dr. Bidlo]

[pakman]

[Dr. Bidlo]

[Whill]