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 Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:13 pm Post subject: Rebel Sentries |
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Personnel who monitored incoming and departing starships and kept watch for Imperial scouts and other hazards from the top of a recon-tower near the Massassi Temple.
Rebel Sentries: All stats 1D+2 except for: Blaster 3D, Dodge 3D, Intimidation 3D, Mechanical 2D+2, Communications 3D+2, Repulsorlift Operation 3D+2, Sensors 4D, Perception 3D, Strength 2D+2, Brawling 3D, Climbing/Jumping 3D, Stamina 3D. Move: 10. Equipment: Blaster rifle (5D), Rebel uniform (+1D physical, +1 energy), communications/sensors helmet (+1D physical, +1 energy; +1D to communications and sensor skill checks), military comlink.
Source: Stats by Emperor Ollie
Appearance: Star Wars: Battlefront (2004)
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Could do with a search skill too.
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| garhkal wrote: | | Could do with a search skill too. |
I thought about this, but as presented in ANH I figured the were more about sensors and possibly communication skills. Though a search skill wouldn't be bad either. Say, search 3D+2?
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| Whill wrote: | | What's the thought process on them being below human average on everything except Mechanical and Strength? Why would they have below average human Dexterity and Perception? |
They were based on the attributes given to other standard Rebel/New Republic stats by WEG. I am guessing that the minimum stats are for PC's and not for NPCs. In the past I have tried to make NPCs built on 12D. I suppose one could go on the working mechanic that all NPCs have 2D in all stats and that variation would be skills and associated dice pools. Otherwise you have to drop a stat below 2D in order to raise another above 2D. Perhaps NPCs are built on 15D instead of 12D?
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| shootingwomprats wrote: | | Whill wrote: | | What's the thought process on them being below human average on everything except Mechanical and Strength? Why would they have below average human Dexterity and Perception? |
They were based on the attributes given to other standard Rebel/New Republic stats by WEG. I am guessing that the minimum stats are for PC's and not for NPCs. In the past I have tried to make NPCs built on 12D. I suppose one could go on the working mechanic that all NPCs have 2D in all stats and that variation would be skills and associated dice pools. Otherwise you have to drop a stat below 2D in order to raise another above 2D. Perhaps NPCs are built on 15D instead of 12D? |
Thanks. That explains a lot. Some WEG authors definitely did proceed from the false premise that non-PC-level NPCs must equal the total average species attribute dice, such as 12D for many species including humans. There was actually no such rule and that is a misunderstanding of the game system.
NPCs can and should have any number of attribute dice as appropriate for each NPC. 12D, 15D, 20D, 13D+2, whatever. For humans, you have the benchmarks of PCs having 18D total and a completely average attribute being 2D. Some authors get this, and for NPCs that should be a little better than average in some ways, they usually stat them out as "2D in all skills and attributes except..." and specify the stats that are better. For all those NPCs, there was no attempt to "balance" them out to a certain total attribute die code value. Sure, there will still be some characters with some below average attributes, like the module that had "bumbling bounty hunters". I wouldn't think Rebel Sentries would be "bumbling" in any way.
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I get a lot of mileage out of the 225 page fan-made Non-Player Character PDF, myself.
I love how - for each type of NPC you might encounter - you get a "standard" version, but then most of them also get an "Experienced", "Veteran", and "Elite" version as well. The Attributes are often the same for each version, but they become more skilled the more experienced they are.
So if I'm looking for a Rebel Soldier, or a Bartender, or whatever, I can pick one and the work is mostly done for me already. I can then tweak slightly if I wish.
FWIW, comparing a few chosen at random, the Attributes total out to:
Rebel Soldier 12D+2
Hutt Merchant 14D
Knights Swoop Gang Member 14D
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| Whill wrote: | | shootingwomprats wrote: | | Whill wrote: | | What's the thought process on them being below human average on everything except Mechanical and Strength? Why would they have below average human Dexterity and Perception? |
They were based on the attributes given to other standard Rebel/New Republic stats by WEG. I am guessing that the minimum stats are for PC's and not for NPCs. In the past I have tried to make NPCs built on 12D. I suppose one could go on the working mechanic that all NPCs have 2D in all stats and that variation would be skills and associated dice pools. Otherwise you have to drop a stat below 2D in order to raise another above 2D. Perhaps NPCs are built on 15D instead of 12D? |
Thanks. That explains a lot. Some WEG authors definitely did proceed from the false premise that non-PC-level NPCs must equal the total average species attribute dice, such as 12D for many species including humans. There was actually no such rule and that is a misunderstanding of the game system.
NPCs can and should have any number of attribute dice as appropriate for each NPC. 12D, 15D, 20D, 13D+2, whatever. For humans, you have the benchmarks of PCs having 18D total and a completely average attribute being 2D. Some authors get this, and for NPCs that should be a little better than average in some ways, they usually stat them out as "2D in all skills and attributes except..." and specify the stats that are better. For all those NPCs, there was no attempt to "balance" them out to a certain total attribute die code value. Sure, there will still be some characters with some below average attributes, like the module that had "bumbling bounty hunters". I wouldn't think Rebel Sentries would be "bumbling" in any way. |
I forgot the thread i posted them in, but looking at the NPC reb spec forecs vs normal troopers, and similarly with naval troopers vs stormies, they seemed rather... Bland.
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| Whill wrote: | | I wouldn't think Rebel Sentries would be "bumbling" in any way. |
Rebel Sentries: All stats 2D except for: blaster 3D+1, dodge 3D+1, intimidation 3D+1, Mechanical 2D+2, communications 3D+2, repulsorlift operation 3D+2, sensors 4D, Perception 3D+1, search 4D, Strength 3D, brawling 3D+1, climbing/jumping 3D+1, stamina 3D+1. Move: 10. Equipment: Blaster rifle (5D), Rebel uniform (+1D physical, +1 energy), communications/sensors helmet (+1D physical, +1 energy; +1D to communications and sensor skill checks), military comlink. Source: Stats by Emperor Ollie.
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That looks much better...
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