Terminator Crossover

[CRMcNeill]

So, I have this basic concept for a Terminator crossover into the post-Endor era.

It's an established part of the canon that, post-Endor, the various Imperial remnant factions tried to leverage technological innovations to secure and/or advance their own power and influence. I've already posited the idea of a TIE Droid Brain that could be swapped into any TIE model during construction, and that got me thinking about other possibilities. An obvious extension of that idea would be a humanoid droid that could be put inside stormtrooper armor, and from there, the similarities to the Terminator just keep getting stronger. Considering that cybernetics in the SWU can be made to mimic organic parts, it wouldn't be at all hard to vary the size and proportions of the basic human frame to make human (or any alien species) appearing infiltration models.

As a background, I'm picturing an Imperial Remnant faction that has the stockpiles / manufacturing capability to produce starfighters, storm trooper armor, personal weapons, etcetera in bulk, but lacks the manpower to match. So, despite the cultural taboos of using battle droids, they begin to manufacture droids for use as troops, ship crew, etc.

I can also see a potential tie-in with General Arndall Lott's slave-rigged walker units (Wanted by Cracken, pgs. 10-14), since it's not much of a leap from slave-rigging walkers to putting autonomous droid brains into them, or any of the Imperial Army's other ground or aerial vehicles. From there, you can introduce the various Hunter-Killer models, especially considering Dark Empire already gave us the Droid Tank, which is really a pale shadow of the HK-Tank.

Anyway, just wanted to get that out there. Thoughts?
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[Whill]

At first I thought this was going to be about metamorphosing metal droids. Whew!

Droid stormtroopers are already a thing in Legends and Canon: Dark Troopers. Human replica droids are also already a thing at least in Legends. I don't see the advantage of making what is inside the stormtrooper armor look human since what is under the armor ideally stays hidden by the armor.

Now if by 'infiltration models' you mean droid stormtroopers that are pretending to be living stormtroopers to infiltrate Imperial forces, wouldn't that be used against Imperial factions by the New Republic or rival Imperial factions?

Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying? (That is certainly possible.)
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[Dr. Bidlo]

[Whill]

[CRMcNeill]

Polydroxol and Iskalloni are the two most obvious examples of WEG resorting to cheap copies of other sci-fi universes. The T-1000 and the Borg are both iconic in their own respective settings. I much prefer WEG's later take on metamorphs in the form of the Cree-Va (D6 Space Aliens, pgs. 89-92), using a mass of tiny insects instead of "mimetic polyalloy".

For the purposes of this crossover, though, I prefer to stick to the tech level of Terminators as seen in the first film. That level of droid tech is roughly on par with (or marginally ahead of) the tech level seen in the SWU, so it's not a huge leap to picture an Imperial Remnant coming up with that sort of innovation.
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[Dr. Bidlo]

So what you are talking about is basically an assassin Droid with artificial skin to appear human (or humanoid). That is not a huge leap...

[Raven Redstar]

Cool crossover idea, and I think it's totally plausible. Especially in the post Endor era. The scary thing would be having the Star Wars version of Skynet taking over that sector and wiping out all organic life.
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[Ray]

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[Mamatried]

GURI or actually most Human Replic Droids, would fit perfectly for a T-800 type build.

It states in the desctiption that it is a droid/metal body covered in clone vatted human skin and flesh, so I would see this be a good fit since it is a drod, to have the vision enhancements, the added speed and strength etc etc, all easy to do with a "regular" human replica droid.

As to time travel, I would argue that some form of "instant" tleporting, maybe a 2-3 charge ability, can easily mimic actual time travel.

We travel for 5 days to coruscant to escape the Terminator, now he is there .
as to the inital arrival, lets say he is from another galaxy like one of the companions, and the time this takes is again the time travelled by the terminator instant teleport thing


As for something more in the line of liquid metal, I can only suggest making a species of sorts

[willg]

I was going to mention Guri.

My suggestions?

From the Terminator lore, I can pull a few ideas. One question is the Infiltrator droid just meant to pass a humanoid or is it meant to look like, say some relatively high-ranking member of the resistance?

For the Latter may I recommend the TS-300?

https://terminator.fandom.com/wiki/TS-300

"The TS-300 is a stealth Infiltrator featuring ceramic endoskeletons, and personality transfer software to create undetectable one-off copies of real human beings. They have physiology, complete with organ systems, and lifelike pheromones that even deceive animal detection. Its improved musculature means it has faster reactions and is stronger than a T-8xx. Each TS-300 is equipped with the EM sensor masking/stealth unit which enables these TS-300 to deceive electronic detection systems."

Also, http://mightymuttsquad.raptorsquad.net/crossover/terminator.htm

It might help redefine what you're looking to make through a Star Wars lens.
The KelPeth T-800 Combat Replica Droid
created by James Cameron and Harlan Ellison.

Kelpeth T-800 Combat Replica Droid

Dexterity: 4D+2
Blaster 6D, Brawling Parry 5D, Firearms 6D, Grenade 6D, Melee Combat 6D, Melee Parry 5D

Knowledge: 3D
Scholar: Human Anatomy 8D, Survival: Wasteland 6D,Languages 10D, Intimidation 7D,
Scholar: Kelpeth Systems 6D

Mechanical: 3D+2
Ground Vehicle Operation 6D

Perception: 3D
Investigation 7D, Search 8D

Strength: 6D
Brawling 8D, Climbing/Jumping 7D, Lifting 8D, Stamina 8D

Technical: 3D+2
Blaster Repair 6D, Firearms Repair 6D, Demolition 7D, First Aid 6D, Ground Vehicle Repair 6D, Security, 7D

Move: 12

Equipped with:
Humanoid Construction
Vocabulator
Enhanced Visual Receptors (+2D to any sight-based action)
Adaptive Learning Circuitry
Life Support Circuitry: Power source and/or CPU must be shut down/destroyed before a terminator will stop hunting

Disadvantages:
Dogs bark at the smell of a terminator.
Human Skin: Destroyed on incapacitated, but terminator is unharmed (unless it’s a MAJOR wound)

History in the Kilb-iverse:
The 'T' class replica droids initially started off as a safe alternative to using human miners by the Kelpeth Corporation on Maltus-5, as it turned out the mining coalition got up in arms about the fact that they were being wedged out of lucrative contracts and protested. The millions of credits invested in the droids caused Kelpeth to rethink their idea and they then took to fashioning the droids with a synthetic flesh to integrate them in with the workers. When the mining interests that the Kelpeth corporation held took a turn for the worse they sold their holdings and moved the droids into 'combat' operations selling them to the highest bidder. The problem became that the Empire began to restrict the sales of droids and slapped restrictions of how droids could act and function. Kelpeth has ordered to cease any further production of the 'T' line. They did so, in accordance with the law, but they had millions of units and sold them off to the highest bidders with all the replacement parts the buyer could carry to recoup their losses.

The Mutt Squad only ever encountered the 'T' line once, it was during a kidnapping attempt on Otas Sands, they fought the two droids until they were both destroyed. In the end Stromgald Caballa had this to say...

"They can't be reasoned with. They don't feel pity, or remorse, or fear and it absolutely will not stop EVER, until you are dead!"

[CRMcNeill]

Some interesting possibilities here, but I think some of the entries are a bit superficial. For instance, I'd much rather have a rule about how characters or species with a strong sense of smell have an advantage in seeing through the disguise (or at least knowing something is off about the terminator) than simply saying "dogs bark at the smell of them". There's also the Scholar: Human Anatomy. Yes, it's a direct takeaway from the line in Terminator 2, but how is it actually useful in a game? Far better, IMO, to give it dice in First Aid (and maybe Medicine, as well).
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