Emperor Vader....

[Mamatried]

THis is a "what if" post.

What if Darth Vader overthrew and killed (totally, no exxagol) Palaptine and took over as Emperor.

I am not here considering Vader ruleing with Luke, but "alone" as emperor.

What would be differrnt?
Would he be a less overtly evil ruler?
Would the empire still fight the rebels?
Would the empire still deal in savery?

I find and "emperor vader" interesting, maybe more so than we sort of see with an "emperor thrawn" with the empire of the hand.

that being said the emoire can and we see this with the fel empire, be far less evil and dark than under palpatine.

so any thoughsts on how Vader would do as Emperor?

[garhkal]

Would he do slavery?? I am not so sure, since HE HIMSELF grew up from being a slave.
Would they still be fighting the rebels.. HELL YES.
Would he be just as evil? Not so sure.. IMO IT WAS Palpaltine warping him to the extent we saw.
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[Mamatried]

I think it is an intering what if.

I sort of knwow he would not take lightly at all to slavery, and he would be fighting the war and the jedi maybe even more I think.

how would life be under his rule?
The questions and thoughts on the what if I think is really intesting.

would he be a better as in more "good" emperor, would life under his empire be better, if so would the rebel allance be as powerful and have so much sway among the people?

I sort of imagine a hard line dictatorship but with a life for the common man maybe not being all that bad at all.

I don't think vader would have continued the ISB, or the COMPNOR and with both of those two cancer boils away from the empire that alone would be a gian step to the lesser evil I think he would be.

but I also think maybe the emire would be more feared, as his image is feared more or less over

[Whill]

I have a hard time envisioning this. Anakin had been a slave until freed by the Jedi in TPM, and have become a slave again in RotS. After his defeat and cyborgization, he became a slave to technology because he could not live without it. He became a slave to Emperor because he no longer had the power to overthrow him himself. He became a slave to the Dark Side because he lost everything else. He lost the Republic. He lost the Jedi. He lost Padme and her child. Vader was a broken man. The only possible way to defeat Palpatine was with Luke's help. In TESB he hoped it would be by turning Luke to the Dark Side. It ended up being by Luke's refusal to turn to the Dark Side being a distraction for Palpatine. But even then, the machine's keeping Vader alive could not survive the Palpatine's lightning, so the only possibility left would be by renouncing the Dark Side, doing the right thing, destroying the Sith, and sacrificing his life to save Luke, the future of the Jedi Order, and hope for the galaxy. Anakin was only freed from slavery by his death.

What Ifs are interesting, but the only way I can see Emperor Vader is if he wasn't defeated by Obi-Wan on Mustafar and turned into a cyborg. Is that what you meant?
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[Mamatried]

[Whill]

This is still a little confusing. Technically, Anakin was Vader from the moment he was christened "Darth Vader" is Palpatine's office in the middle of the movie.

Do you just mean 'classic visage' Vader in the black armor? He would have no reason to wear that if he didn't become a cyborg. Wearing that was not his choice. It was a necessity.

Or do you mean after he was given the title of Darth Vader, but before he lost to Obi-Wan on Mustafar, the timeline diverged from the films? Do you mean, 'What if Vader had won the duel with Obi-Wan, and then he did have enough power to defeat Palpatine and take over?' So Anakin became the Sith Master and Emperor?

If he didn't wear the mask, then everyone would see that he was Anakin Skywalker so he couldn't fully embrace the identity of 'Darth Vader.' The Skywalker identity was buried to become Vader. And the problem remains, Anakin believed he had turned to the Dark Side for a good reason, as an end to justify the means. So the only way I can see a fully evil Emperor Vader is if Padme dies, when he has nothing good left in his life.
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[garhkal]

[Whill]

[garhkal]

Maybe his killing of palp, STILL leads to him becoming vader, because HE still sees the need to 'get things done', like he mentioned to padme in ATOC ("I feel that if someone has the power TO DO something they SHOULD do something")
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[Ray]

Despite a few tries to get it going, I have a similar AU that I want to role play, where Luke is able to save Vader on Cloud City, and the two Skywalkers create "The Jedi Protectorate" with the help of the Mandalorians.

Jedi Master Anakin Skywalker, last known member of the Jedi Council, offered the Mandalorians something the Jedi never did before.

But, did Luke really save Vader? Or did Vader convince Luke to join him to combat against The Emperor, and this is part of their plan?

This allows the PCs to be the main characters of the story rather than "The Other Guys" while the movie characters do the awesome. And the answer to that question of Light or Dark Jedi Protectorate? All based off of the choices they make.

The PCs make a darker universe, Vader and Luke fall to The Dark Side. The PCs make a lighter universe, Luke saved Anakin and they're working to bring back the Jedi the way it was supposed to be.

[Whill]

Interesting concept!

[garhkal]

Anakin was never a master, which is why he hated the council... They recognized his position on it, but did iirc, not confer the rank of master on him..
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[Ray]

[TauntaunScout]

Human history if full of ex-slaves who owned slaves. Especially in ancient Rome and such. He'd rationalize it away and let the empire keep its slaves.

[ThrorII]