Force skill starting skill dice allocation

[Whill]

So on Facebook there seems to be confusion among some people about starting Force skill rules in RAW. I didn't think there was any confusion here, but I thought I would create this post for the lurkers if no one else.

There are two ways to create characters: by choosing an existing template or by creating your own template.

If you choose a Force character of an existing template, then you may allocate starting skill dice to any Force skill that the character starts with.

If you choose to create your own template with Force skills, they cost 1D of starting attribute dice for each skill and the Force skill die code value is 1D. You may still choose to allocate starting skill dice to any Force skill listed. Since you can allocate a max of 2D to any skills, any Force skills on the template can start out at 1D-3D when the character is done being made.

See R&E p.28 and 32. The confusion for some seems to be that the Creating a New Template section that indicates Force skills starting at 1D coming out of attribute dice does not state the earlier rule for Finishing a Template, so more than one person thought that meant created templates can't allocate skill dice to Force skills, when there is no prohibition stated for that. It wouldn't make any sense if created templates can't have starting skill dice allocated to Force skills but published templates can. The rule for having Force skills in the first place coming out of attribute dice does not undo or change the earlier rule for applying starting skill dice. They are talking about two different things. Allocating starting skill dice to Force skills applies to both template types (player created and published).

I'm just curious, has anyone here ran into that player confusion about the rules?
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[garhkal]

The only confusion i've ever seen, was with new players, thinking they could (with the templates) assign a skill die to one of the powers, they don't have...
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[Straxus]

RAW is a bit confusing IMO regarding Force skills, since it uses attribute dice at char gen, but then skill points later on. That's why I took the leap to using a Force Attribute, and sense, control and alter are skills that default to that attribute.

My players don't read too much rules on their own, so they tend to do what I tell them to do

[MrNexx]

My reading has always been thus:

If not using a Template, you can use 1 of your Attribute Dice to buy access to 1 Force Skill at 1D. You can do this up to 3 times, at a cost of 3D (total) Attribute dice, giving you 1D in each of the 3 force skills.

You may, when assigning skill dice, assign them to any force skill you actually have, subject to the usual maximum of 2D per skill. Thus, you can start the game with up to 3D in each Force Skill, and with 1D left over for other skills.

A theoretical "I'm A Jedi who can do nothing else" build would look like this:

Dex 4D (total attribute dice 4D)
*Lightsaber 5D
KNO 2D (6D)
MECH 2D (8D)
PER 3D (11D)
STR 2D (13D)
TECH 2D (15D)

Control 3D, Sense 3D, Alter 3D. They would have 21 Force Powers (First at 1D, second at 1D+1, third @ 1D+2, 4th @ 2D, 5th @ 2D+1, 6th @ 2D+2, 7th @3D, over 3 skills).
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[garhkal]

[MrNexx]

[Kytross]

I put together all the force rules here.

[garhkal]

[MrNexx]