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Mamatried Commodore
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:47 pm Post subject: Prestige Classes |
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In D20, we see the concept of prestige classes, high specialized variant classes you have to pass some requirements to play.
example could be the deep space pilot
to be able to take levels inthis class you need to have a minimum of skills and skill ranks.
is this possible in star wars D6, and if so, how would this be done?
I am trying to make the Emperor's hand but to me it seems to be a very specialized class with the requirement that you "impress, or get notcied by the old guy)
So to me this means someone capable in skills at least that is above the norm, maybe above the average starter character.
(in this I ignore the write up of Mara Sue Jade)
Here is my attempt at the class.
Emperor's Hand (Prestige Class)
-Minimum Requirements
DEX 3D, PER 3D, STR 3D
Must Have at least 5 DEX, STR, PER skills at 5D
Must have at least 2 KNO, TEC Skills at 3D
Must be force sensitve
DEX
KNO
+1D (s)Bureaucracy-Galactic Empire
+1 Intimidation
+1D willpower
MEC
PER
+2 Command
+1D Investigation
+1D Search
STR
TEC
+1D Computer Programming/Repair
+1D Security
-Telepathic Link: Not sure how to do this one, but receptive telepathy at least, and later a natural progression to projected telepathy
-Authority: (possible bonus to command)
-Rescourses (bonus to make requisitions of Imperial material and personell)
SENSE 1D
Receptive Telepathy
Loose 1 force point if more than two
Recive 1 DSP
My thoughts are once you have the qualifications, you are now somewhat "locked" into the path and spend you CP to gain the listed skills before you do anything else. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Heresy detected. Purge the heretic. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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jmanski Arbiter-General (Moderator)
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Someone did a version of that from the Star Wars D20 iirc. I don't remember where I found it, but the basis was that for each determined amount of skills a PC raised, they earned a level in a PRC. Converted PRCs were Elite Soldier, High Stakes Gambler, Smuggler Prince, Ace Pilot, and one or two Force Users.
Its an interesting take on D6, but adds complication to a fairly simple system, imho. _________________ Blasted rules. Why can't they just be perfect? |
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Dredwulf60 Line Captain
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I played D&D quite a bit. I never really got the attraction to the 'prestige' classes when they invented them for 3rd edition.
When you strip them down, it's simply a way to get some extra abilities and powers that are sort of related to the class...and the ability to call yourself whatever the name of the class is.
"I'm not just a regular ______...I'm a RAINBOW SWORD-DEFENDER!"
Since D6 is about skill building rather than special abilities, I don't think the prestige classes would work unless you build in a new powers/abilities to go with them.
I think the skill selection and ratings you get them to defines who the character is. The archetype is just a starting point.
Now having said all that, when I did my mandalorians write-up, I realized all the characters were going to be the same base archetype so I developed some sub-sets that some might view as a kind hybridized of prestige class system, with skill dice bonuses instead of powers. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
Joined: 05 Apr 2010 Posts: 16281 Location: Redding System, California Sector, on the I-5 Hyperspace Route.
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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The closest the RAW comes to Prestige Classes are Advanced Skills. By picking the right prerequisites, this allows you to improve the effective level of those skills more rapidly because they stack with the Advanced Skill. It's also highly recommended that you come up with specific tasks that can only be performed by using the Advanced Skill (or alternately, tasks that can only be performed at great difficulty without it). _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:59 am Post subject: |
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jmanski wrote: |
Its an interesting take on D6, but adds complication to a fairly simple system, imho. |
Agreed. I could possibly see a base NPC template for emperor's hand, but that would be it. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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Whill Dark Lord of the Jedi (Owner/Admin)
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Mamatried Commodore
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:58 am Post subject: |
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I can see how this can be done with specialities and advance skills.
but I find the concept kind of interesting. |
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Scots Dragon Lieutenant Commander
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Whill wrote: | CRMcNeill wrote: | Heresy detected. Purge the heretic. |
LOL. Yes, I see no reason whatsoever to add any aspect of classes/levels/feats/hit points, etc. to D6. The D6 system was pointedly designed to avoid all that. |
I can see an argument for talents/traits and flaws as a general thing you can add or subtract from characters. Stuff that adds and subtracts dice to certain existing skills while active, which can be used as the place where you put stuff like the lightsabre forms or similar special bonuses. |
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Darklighter79 Captain
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I have always considered prestige classes as character templates/archetypes with a different set and level of skills for D6.
There's no need to create any special rules for them. _________________ Don’t Let the Rules Get in the Way of a Good Story. |
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Mamatried Commodore
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Darklighter79 wrote: | I have always considered prestige classes as character templates/archetypes with a different set and level of skills for D6.
There's no need to create any special rules for them. |
I have too, ans maybe it isthe variuos write up that I find lacking.
Lets take an example with special forces. to me they are BASELINE soldiers that is given added training.
so a specila forces template that simply replace the basline solders done's do it.
a green beret is forst a soldier , lets say infantry man, he then ADDS the special forces training , while most if not all wrtie up makes him a GB fro the start.
that is my main reason for thinking in prestige classes. |
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MrNexx Rear Admiral
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Whill wrote: | CRMcNeill wrote: | Heresy detected. Purge the heretic. |
LOL. Yes, I see no reason whatsoever to add any aspect of classes/levels/feats/hit points, etc. to D6. The D6 system was pointedly designed to avoid all that. |
I would like to see something on the nature of feats... special, learnable, abilities that are not reliant upon the Force. There's some limited amount from martial arts maneuvers and such, but something to help differentiate one person with 5D blaster from another person with 5D blaster would be nice. _________________ "I've Seen Your Daily Routine. You Are Not Busy!"
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Mamatried Commodore
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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MrNexx wrote: | Whill wrote: | CRMcNeill wrote: | Heresy detected. Purge the heretic. |
LOL. Yes, I see no reason whatsoever to add any aspect of classes/levels/feats/hit points, etc. to D6. The D6 system was pointedly designed to avoid all that. |
I would like to see something on the nature of feats... special, learnable, abilities that are not reliant upon the Force. There's some limited amount from martial arts maneuvers and such, but something to help differentiate one person with 5D blaster from another person with 5D blaster would be nice. |
talent for marksmanship: Does not give any pip or Dice to skill, but lessesn the difficulty for ranges.
things like that? |
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MrNexx Rear Admiral
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Mamatried wrote: |
talent for marksmanship: Does not give any pip or Dice to skill, but lessesn the difficulty for ranges.
things like that? |
Or something that eliminates 1 MAP without increasing skill otherwise. Or reduces travel time in astrogation. _________________ "I've Seen Your Daily Routine. You Are Not Busy!"
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Whill Dark Lord of the Jedi (Owner/Admin)
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2020 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Scots Dragon wrote: | I can see an argument for talents/traits and flaws as a general thing you can add or subtract from characters. Stuff that adds and subtracts dice to certain existing skills while active, which can be used as the place where you put stuff like the lightsabre forms or similar special bonuses. |
D6 has skill specializations and advanced skills. D6 can have advantages, disadvantages, and special abilities. See D6 Space for ideas. This is sufficient for realizing character concepts. I just do not see any reason to try to square-peg foreign system mechanics into Star Wars D6 like classes/careers, feats/talents, etc. _________________ *
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