Ideas for Simplifying Grenades

[ThrorII]

So standard combat goes:
1. Roll to hit (Blaster) > Roll to Dodge (Difficulty +Dodge)
2. Roll Damage > Roll Strength Resistance (STR +Armor)

Grenades go:
1. Roll to hit (Grenade) > Range Difficulty
2. Roll grenade explosion (4D) > Roll to Dodge (Difficulty +Dodge)
3. Roll Damage > Roll Strength Resistance (STR +Armor)
3a. Damage is supposed to be rolled separately for each target.

But there is also:
1a. If the grenade misses (roll to hit < range difficulty)
b. Roll 1D to determine direction of missed throw from target
c. Roll 3D to determine distance of missed throw from target

A standard attack has 2 opposed rolls.

A standard grenade has a minimum of 3 rolls (2 of them opposed) if it is on target, and 5 rolls if it is off-target, +1 roll for each additional target in the blast damage.

Has anyone worked on simplifying grenades?

I know of the house rule to roll once for damage, and apply it to everyone in range.
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[Whill]

[ThrorII]

So on the Star Wars d6 page of MeWe, a gentleman had this solution for grenades:

1. Roll to hit (grenade skill or dex) > distance difficulty
2. Roll grenade damage > Resistance (Str +armor)

1a. If grenade roll is < difficulty, then scatter. Use the Wild Die (2nd Ed+) as the scatter direction x 3 meters for distance*

2a. There is no dodging grenades. Targets roll against the grenade damage for their respective distance (ie: a medium ranged grenade is 3D).

*You may want to re-set the scatter direction so 1 is back towards thrower, 6 is past target, 2 and 3 are to the left/right, and 4 and 5 are behind the target left/right.
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[Dredwulf60]

If you want to go real simple:

Assign the grenade a set damage value.
example: Fragmentation grenade is damage: 20.

The attacker makes the throw roll against range-based difficulty. ie throwing 30 yards you need a 30 roll.


Everyone within the area of effect rolls their own soak against the 20 damage.
They can combine the dodge dice with their Strength dice to soak, accounting for the grenade not landing as closely, or them possibly getting out of range before the fuse time, or getting behind cover and taking less damage or no damage. This abstracts the idea of scatter.

A failure on the grenade-throw means that the thrower has failed to get the grenade to a position it will cause damage to the intended target(s).

A failure with a wild-1 means the character has to soak the base damage of his own grenade. (possibly with a dodge roll added to the soak roll, assuming the grenade had a fuse. If he cooked it off....too bad about that.)


Just off the top of my head.

[Whill]

30 meters, but yeah. Thanks.
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