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So, I was thinking about TIE Fighters and scale, and it occured to me: The only reason they are Starfighter scale is because of their weapons. If you consider them to be Walker scale, they're not bad. If they're just over-powered speeders, they're pretty stout.
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If they're walker scale, they blow up even easier thouhg, in fighter vs fighter combat...
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| garhkal wrote: | | If they're walker scale, they blow up even easier thouhg, in fighter vs fighter combat... |
Only if you keep their stats at the level they are for starfighters, not the level they would be at for walkers.
A TIE\IN at Starfighter Scalle has 2D Hull, 2D Manueverability, and 2D fire control, right? However, that is functionally identical to being a Walker-scale vehicle with 4D Hull, 0D Manueverability, and 0D fire control, right? It would still have the same stats against other starfighters, it is, in essence, a small kid in the bigger pool.
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| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: TIE Fighters and Scale |
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| MrNexx wrote: | | So, I was thinking about TIE Fighters and scale, and it occured to me: The only reason they are Starfighter scale is because of their weapons. If you consider them to be Walker scale, they're not bad. If they're just over-powered speeders, they're pretty stout. |
What is your premise here? Do you think TIE Fighters are too weak and need beefed up?
If TIEs are not enough of a challenge, then add more TIEs. But yeah, CRM's scale system is good.
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MrNexx
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| Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: TIE Fighters and Scale |
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| Whill wrote: | | MrNexx wrote: | | So, I was thinking about TIE Fighters and scale, and it occured to me: The only reason they are Starfighter scale is because of their weapons. If you consider them to be Walker scale, they're not bad. If they're just over-powered speeders, they're pretty stout. |
What is your premise here? Do you think TIE Fighters are too weak and need beefed up?
If TIEs are not enough of a challenge, then add more TIEs. But yeah, CRM's scale system is good. |
Mostly, it's just a thought experiment; sort of like reducing a fraction.
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I think the problems with the TIE's stats are bigger than just the TIE itself, which is part of my original motivation for doing the re-write of the Scale System and most of the game stats in the first place. Talking about a specific stat in a microcosm doesn't address the larger issues pervading the entire system.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | I think the problems with the TIE's stats are bigger than just the TIE itself, which is part of my original motivation for doing the re-write of the Scale System and most of the game stats in the first place. Talking about a specific stat in a microcosm doesn't address the larger issues pervading the entire system. |
I appreciate your comprehensive approach.
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| Whill wrote: | | I appreciate your comprehensive approach. |
Thank you. Any stat requests? It has been a while...
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Whill wrote: | | I appreciate your comprehensive approach. |
Thank you. Any stat requests? It has been a while... |
Maybe you could add size range for each scale? So to newcomers could get the idea which size goes to which group.
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While small enough to be carried aboard capital ships as a starfighter,[5] its immense power output (produced by a Sarylcorp ViX multi-flux reactor), weaponry, and shielding caused some registries to designate it as a capital ship itself. |
Maybe we should go for combo stats rather than fully qualify such small vessels as a capital (simply adding dice to damage and shields to reflect capital scale)? It's not as sluggish in flight as a large ship.
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| Darklighter79 wrote: | | Maybe you could... |
This wasn't a stat request, so I replied in the Scale System topic.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Darklighter79 wrote: | | Maybe you could... |
This wasn't a stat request, so I replied in the Scale System topic. |
For an actual stat request; The Assertor. |
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| Scots Dragon wrote: | | CRMcNeill wrote: | | Darklighter79 wrote: | | Maybe you could... |
This wasn't a stat request, so I replied in the Scale System topic. |
For an actual stat request; The Assertor. |
Replied to this in the D6 Stats for Fractalsponge Projects topic.
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| CRMcNeill wrote: | | Whill wrote: | | I appreciate your comprehensive approach. |
Thank you. Any stat requests? It has been a while... |
Once we see all its capabilities in the upcoming season 7 of CW, I would like to see stats for Havoc_Marauder.
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