Shields

[CRMcNeill]

Where? Where do we see them? They're effectively invisible in the first three films. How exactly does the graphic seen on the screen in the cockpit of the Millennium Falcon not say "angling the deflector shields" against the attack vector of a strafing TIE Fighter, but does say, "oh, he's just adjusting power levels"? Seriously, because I really get the feeling you're overreaching here. The RAW has already established that there are two types of shields, and that one is effectively part of the Hull; the shields on Anakin's fighter are just as likely to be his fighter's particle shields than its deflector shields.
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you see them when they turn on.
as with anakin in the droid ship.

His ship gets a momntary shroud of transperent "something" this being the shields.

on the capital ships this is best seen with collitions and seeing how ships disintegrate as if hitting a wall BEFORE they hit the hull, even when going indise other hangars they hit shields and vaporise wthout actually impacting the hull.

However all sheilds can be penetrated and not every bolt seems to be deflected

[CRMcNeill]

Again, the one's on Anakin's fighter could just as easily be his particle / navigation shields, not his deflectors. The only other clear example of shield use was on the Raddus during the stern chase in TLJ.

And you haven't answered my question as to how what Chewbacca was doing in the Falcon's cockpit wasn't "angling the deflectors", but was "shifting the power."
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[Whill]

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[Red 331]

Hm. I think I have a little different interpretation of the RAW for shields. Which probably means I'm wrong.

I think most of the previous discussion is implying that the shields reaction roll is made just to "shift" the fire arc. In other words, your roll just determines if you successfully flip the switches to the right arc. If you make the roll, you're able to flip the switches. If not, you don't.

I think I have a different interpretation of the RAW. The rolls aren't made to see if you can successfully flip the switches between a binary "on" or "off". The rolls are used to determine if your reaction for whatever arcs you're dealing with are successful. That's why using shields is ALWAYS a reaction.

It's like when Han tells Chewie to "angle the deflector shields" - anybody can change the fire arc settings to "double-front", for example - but the reaction shields roll tells you whether you're able to successfully angle the deflectors across that particular arc or arcs. That's why the difficulty level is increased when you're handling multiple arcs - you're trying to angle the shields separately within each of those arcs.

So you may have the shields on double front, but you may still not angle them correctly within that arc to successfully apply the shields to a given attack made on the front of your ship (if you miss your roll). I think the RAW are implying that the shields must be angled WITHIN a particular arc to successfully shield an attack. In other words, I think the RAW is implying your shields can't cover an ENTIRE fire arc - even if you have enough shield die to cover all four arcs. You still have to angle them within the arcs.

But, like I said, I'm probably wrong. I didn't get enough sleep last night.

[Red 331]

Judging by the deafening silence, clearly - I'm off my rocker.

[Whill]

You're not off your rocker. It's definitely not clear cut in RAW which is why I posted this thread. RAW labels the skill as a "reaction skill".

However the problem I have with your interpretation is that if Shields is reaction-only, then there is no point in ever setting your deflectors on "double front". Setting the shields on full front then reestablishing rear shield coverage (as the dialogue of ANH indicates the rebel starfighters can do) would be meaningless for the reaction-only interpretation where you can only angle the defector shields live as the attacks occur, from multiple fire arcs.

But if your way works for you and your game, great.
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[CRMcNeill]

I'm mulling over a concept of using Shield Dice as a form of steerable cover, almost like a hand-held combat shield for a character. I keep running into obstacles as to how to apply it, though. Any realistic rule I come up with just ends up being too complicated, with three or more steps and two different charts to determine the strength and percentage of cover.
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[CRMcNeill]

Something I've wondered about the Shields RAW is how the dice stacking compares to the various Coordination Rules.

What I mean is, Shield Dice are treated as a Dice Pool that can be split between the four fire arcs, or can be combined all in one. So if, say, a ship has 3D in Shields, it can put all 3D in one arc, put 2D in one arc and 1D in another, or put 1D each in three different arcs. But per the 2E and later iterations of the coordination rules, you don't get a straight +2D modifier for combining three 1D dice values.

Per the 2E Rules (see Combined Action Bonus Tables on pg. 69 of the 2E Rulebook), combining three shields would only get a +1D bonus, or at most, a +1D+2 bonus instead of +2D for combining four shields.

Per the 2R&E Rules (page 83), combining three 1D shields would only get a +1D bonus.

So, per the way Shields are described, it would seem that it isn't a single shield of a set value, but rather multiple shields that can be combined together to create a better defense. However, under the 2R&E Rules, a B-Wing with 2D Shields should only be able to get a +1 bonus to its Shields by combining them in the same arc.
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