Alternative Initiative (Based on Shadowrun)

[Ray]

As I am a Freelance author for Shadowrun now (hey folks, I got my start here! WOO!!! ), my group has playtested the most recent version of the rules.

So, I tried out the most recent version of the Initiative system for Shadowrun using D6, and found it worked quite nicely to narrow down the amount of Initiative rolling, and awarded a bonus to those that rolled really damned well.

Basically, it works like this:

Everyone goes as normal, highest-to-lowest. Then, subtract 10 from the initatives, and do the same thing. Then, subtract another ten, and go on.

So, one PC gets 21, the other PCs get 12, 11, 8, and the NPCs get a whopping 14.

Everyone goes as normal. Then subtract 10. The person who rolled 8 is done, but everyone else gets another go. Then, another 10, and the PC who rolled 21 gets one more go.

New Initiative.

In addition to this, I also ruled that pilots/drivers/beast riders only have to make one Piloting roll for this set. This gives the pilots a chance to do more than just try to Dodge Roll, although if they get a crappy first roll and get a good Initiative, they can try for a better Dodge later on.

My group likes this, but they're used to this system from Playtesting Shadowrun, so maybe it's just them...

[garhkal]

So if say a pc only rolls 9 or under, he can only do 1 action. Someone who rolls 11-20 (effectively) can do 2 actions, and so on..
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[MrNexx]

The new Shadowrun Rules sound a lot like the old Shadowrun rules.

So, if you're doing this, what do you roll for initiative? How do you keep that from becoming, in effect, the "uber stat" that determines the value of the rest of it? I know in old Shadowrun, a high initiatve was pretty well king... if you have 2 more actions than everyone else, you're going to have a significant advantage in every encounter.
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[Ray]

[MrNexx]

How do you envision this interacting with MAPs? Is it "When your turn comes up, you receive MAPs for actions done that pass", or do MAPs apply through an entire round? The first seems to greatly advantage those with high Perceptions... if I roll a 21 and you roll a 9, I'm going to get 3 rounds of regular d6 actions to your 1.
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[Raven Redstar]

I already house ruled that an additional action can be taken every 5 counts down from the initiative roll, if the character so chooses. So, theoretically, someone who rolls 20 on their initiative can take 5 actions in a round. That same character, if his opponent rolled less than 10 could take 3 actions before the first is even able to act: 1 at 20, 15, & 10.
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[CRMcNeill]

I asked a similar question here, and the Shadowrun method was mentioned...
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[garhkal]

[Raven Redstar]

[MrNexx]

So, in effect, this is more a limit on the number of MAPs you can get per round, rather than allowing additional actions?
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[Raven Redstar]

I suppose you could look at it that way, but I like to think of it as giving someone quick enough the ability to take multiple actions before anyone else.

So, your badass gunslinger can potentially draw and gun down multiple attackers before they can even squeeze a shot off. Or, a thief can use their super high initiative to run high speed and make multiple jumps or climbing rolls before his pursuers get a chance to shoot him.
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[MrNexx]

Which, IME with Shadowrun (3rd edition and earlier) got REALLY frustrating for those who didn't have big initiatives... fights were over before they got to do anything. The other version (everyone gets pass 1, then those with pass 2 get to go again, etc.) is common to later Shadowrun and Palladium, and is a bit less frustrating, simply because they've at least gotten to do something before the combat monsters take over.
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[The Brain]

[Ray]

We're on Fifth Edition now, and a lot of folks have been saying the Inmates are now running the Asylum because of old skool fans being part of the team.

I should know, I'm one of those inmates!

[MrNexx]