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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surely you're not suggesting that planets and starships are hardwired to each other when they communicate virtually live on the Holonet? Or do you mean that there is intragalactic wireless communications but no local short range wireless connections? That seems rather odd.


I think it depends on the planet. Planets like Coruscant? Hell yes. Tatooine? Probably only at the major population centers. Secret Rebel base like Hoth, Folor, etc? Hell no. Remote "internet" access would compromise the bases security and lead to their discovery and destruction.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R&E page 192

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Comms, Intercoms and Comlinks. Comms, intercoms
and comlinks all use essentially the same technology: cheap,
speed-of-light communication systems, similar to old-style
radionics and broadcast systems.


IOW, wifi is totally believable. It may be there are advantages to physical connection (R2 plugged in when he wanted to slice), but it may also be that he took out his transceiver to fit rockets in his legs.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Communications in SW I always thought happened instantly. Confer episode V when Vader orders the Executor out of the Hoth asteroid belt so he could have a clear conversation with Palpatine. The questions and answers were all instant, as were the images of Palpatine.

Maybe things beamed at a certain locus arrive with great speed, and other more broad transmissions go slower?

As a GM I have always assumed the holonet was the same as our internet but infinitely more capable. VR gear probably exists somewhere but is expensive and fragile. Dictating forum posts about how to mod a power pack to blow up a lock...now that's holonetting.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Communications in SW I always thought happened instantly. Confer episode V when Vader orders the Executor out of the Hoth asteroid belt so he could have a clear conversation with Palpatine. The questions and answers were all instant, as were the images of Palpatine.

Maybe things beamed at a certain locus arrive with great speed, and other more broad transmissions go slower?

As a GM I have always assumed the holonet was the same as our internet but infinitely more capable. VR gear probably exists somewhere but is expensive and fragile. Dictating forum posts about how to mod a power pack to blow up a lock...now that's holonetting.


It serves the same purpose. However using it to connect to distant worlds is expensive for civilians.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Communications in SW I always thought happened instantly. Confer episode V when Vader orders the Executor out of the Hoth asteroid belt so he could have a clear conversation with Palpatine. The questions and answers were all instant, as were the images of Palpatine.

Maybe things beamed at a certain locus arrive with great speed, and other more broad transmissions go slower?

As a GM I have always assumed the holonet was the same as our internet but infinitely more capable. VR gear probably exists somewhere but is expensive and fragile. Dictating forum posts about how to mod a power pack to blow up a lock...now that's holonetting.


It serves the same purpose. However using it to connect to distant worlds is expensive for civilians.

Your average world which has at least entered the space age would probably be connected to the holonet. However, such worlds would probably be responsible for boosting incoming signals so that they reach inhabitants in good quality. You can bet you'll find signal boosters with regularity across the SW universe, with probably a bunch of them surrounding a given ecumenopolis.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Your average world which has at least entered the space age would probably be connected to the holonet. However, such worlds would probably be responsible for boosting incoming signals so that they reach inhabitants in good quality. You can bet you'll find signal boosters with regularity across the SW universe, with probably a bunch of them surrounding a given ecumenopolis.


Being connected to the network doesn't mean that using the network is cheap. The cost of maintaining an intergalactic network has to be astronomical even if individual worlds help foot the bill.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From stuff about the Holonet in R&E, I'd bet that most developed worlds have a local internet, with access to extended nets when needed. With Star Wars communication technology, a planetary internet would be relatively easy to maintain, but data calls for out-system might be more expensive or difficult. The local databases might have a wealth of local information, lots of galactic information, but relatively little extra-local information... so you can know your local government, and can probably look up the names of Senators and planets, but the average person on Dantooine probably doesn't have access to the name of the Mayor of Tosche Station.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From stuff about the Holonet in R&E, I'd bet that most developed worlds have a local internet, with access to extended nets when needed. With Star Wars communication technology, a planetary internet would be relatively easy to maintain, but data calls for out-system might be more expensive or difficult. The local databases might have a wealth of local information, lots of galactic information, but relatively little extra-local information... so you can know your local government, and can probably look up the names of Senators and planets, but the average person on Dantooine probably doesn't have access to the name of the Mayor of Tosche Station.


Added to that we have no idea what types of restrictions. and filters have been put into effect by various governments. Planets in the same system under different local governments may restrict access to information on the net to vastly different degrees, and the same goes for multi-system governments, like the Empire, New Republic, Corporate Sector Authority, Hutt Space, etc.

The beauty of not having anything in hard written rules about the "internet" in the SWU is that the GM is free to allow whatever he wants.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Planetary or systemwide internets make a lot of sense, and many of them would likely be free except at the outskirts.

I was just now thinking that we have just fiated a market for software for all these thousands of worlds and sectors...maybe an NPC in one of my games would be very wealthy that way.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even in the core, i doubt access to the holonet was free. Remember in that novel trilogy where Lando was 'hunting down' his bride to be, and said i could comm her normally or pay more for an expensive holonet call...
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