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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:26 pm Post subject: Jupiter Ascending Crossover |
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So, since this came up off-topic in another thread, I thought I'd move it over here.
I'll say up front that I wasn't hugely impressed with this film. The visuals were amazing, and there were moments of humor (the bureaucracy scene in the middle was straight out of a Monty Python sketch. Literally. That was Terry Gilliam as the Seal and Signets Minister), but as a whole, it just didn't grab me and pull me in.
Obviously, YMMV.
While the starships in the film were visually amazing, their tech is obviously far advanced over that of the SWU, with free-floating components held in place by force fields (apparently), so porting them over into the SWU would require some sort of advanced alien race.
And then, of course, there is the idea of harvesting entire planetary populations for the purpose of creating a drug that essentially makes one immortal (so long as you keep taking it).
That, IMO, is probably the most likely crossover option for this film; an advanced alien race that abducts living being to render them down for their life force, and creates Moreaus (human-animal hybrids) as enhanced soldiers to do their bidding...
I've already got the harvesting idea locked in for a different crossover (the Necrons of Warhammer 40K), but it might be something others would be interested in... _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Melkor Ensign
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Could be interesting. Perhaps some other Extra Galactic threat (Nagai, Vong and probably others). I think I would personally change it to harvesting Force Sensitives. |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Melkor wrote: | Could be interesting. Perhaps some other Extra Galactic threat (Nagai, Vong and probably others). I think I would personally change it to harvesting Force Sensitives. |
For a different crossover, maybe; Jupiter Ascending is pretty specific about harvesting the entire planetary population. Focusing specifically on Force Sensitives would be more associated with the Shadows from Babylon 5 or the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40,000. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Melkor Ensign
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Fair enough. Haven't actually watched the movie to completion as of yet. Though on the topic of Bab5, why did BSG get a reboot and not Babylon? I need my G'kar/Londo banter fix. |
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Maybe because B5 is newer compared to how old BSG was..? _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:30 am Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | Maybe because B5 is newer compared to how old BSG was..? |
True. BSG took close to 30 years to get a reboot. You could be in for a long wait. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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And what's worse, is i have heard rumors that they are doing yet another REBOOT for BSG, making a movie first for it.. not sure how true it is.. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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MrNexx Rear Admiral
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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It might also be an ownership thing... B5 was, so far as I know, pretty much Straczynski's thing.
A quick search says BSG was wholly owned by NBC Universal, while Warner shares ownership of B5 with PTN Consortium... and while I can't find much information about the PTN Consortium with a quick search, it could be that licensing between them and Warner keeps it from being remade as easily as something owned wholly by NBC. _________________ "I've Seen Your Daily Routine. You Are Not Busy!"
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Whill Dark Lord of the Jedi (Owner/Admin)
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:52 pm Post subject: Re: Jupiter Ascending Crossover |
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CRMcNeill wrote: | garhkal wrote: | I seem to be (on many sites) one of the few who loved jupiter ascending.. And i LOVED the visuals, especially that 'made to order box to vac suit emergency thinggy. |
I'll say is that the tech level in JA was more advanced than that of the SWU.
Although an ultra-advanced race who harvests life to extend their own could make an interesting villain... |
I didn't love Jupiter Ascending, but it was ok. I snagged some of the film images from the official website to use as locations for the SW RPG. I think the sentients-harvesting race is a great idea for an adventure/antagonist. Hmm... _________________ *
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:23 am Post subject: Re: Jupiter Ascending Crossover |
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Whill wrote: | I think the sentients-harvesting race is a great idea for an adventure/antagonist. Hmm... |
Technically, the SWU already has one (the Ssi-Ruuk), but apart from the creepy horror of entechment, the Ssi-Ruuk themselves never really impressed me. They were almost comical: cowardly, racist velociraptors. Compared to life eating horrors like WH40K's Tyranids, they "just weren't evil enough." _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:12 am Post subject: |
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True, but enteching only powered their robots.. NOT expanded their lifespan. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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garhkal wrote: | True, but enteching only powered their robots.. NOT expanded their lifespan. |
Yes, but since Whill specifically mentioned a life-harvesting adversarial race without going into more detail, the point still stands. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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Melkor Ensign
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I had forgotten all about those little lizard dudes. Did they ever make an appearance again after Bakura? |
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CRMcNeill Director of Engineering
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Melkor wrote: | I had forgotten all about those little lizard dudes. Did they ever make an appearance again after Bakura? |
They showed up for a bit part in the NJO, but if anything, the Vong hated them more than the rest of the galaxy because of entechment. _________________ "No set of rules can cover every situation. It's expected that you will make up new rules to suit the needs of your game." - The Star Wars Roleplaying Game, 2R&E, pg. 69, WEG, 1996.
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garhkal Sovereign Protector
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:55 am Post subject: |
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CRMcNeill wrote: | Melkor wrote: | I had forgotten all about those little lizard dudes. Did they ever make an appearance again after Bakura? |
They showed up for a bit part in the NJO, but if anything, the Vong hated them more than the rest of the galaxy because of entechment. |
I remember a Mention of them, but not them showing up.. _________________ Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
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