Flash Bang grenades

[garhkal]

I have often had these 'alternate stunning' weapons used by city swats and local planetary guards. Unlike normal grenades, Flash bangs get resisted by Perception, NOT strength. In the past i have usually had them set at a specific 'damage' value that someone rolls their Per against, and the lower they roll, the more 'debilitated' they are from blinding and disorientation Normal Flash bangs are a 20 base value, with the resultant disorientation being valued at
0-3 less - minus 1d for 1 round to all actions
4-7 less, -2d for 1d rounds
8-12 less, -3d for 2d rounds
13-16 less, -4d for 1 minute
17 or more, -4d for 1d minutes.

There is a heavier flash bang with a flat 25 for its disorientation value, and a lesser one set at 15.

Last Gencon someone suggested rather than having it be a flat value, have it a Die value (like all other grenades/explosives etc), and allow for things like sonic dampeners/flash suppressor goggles to give bonuses much like armor do..

What say you all on that?
Should they go to a die damage value or stay as is?
What would be a good "armor" bonus those items should grant to the Per roll?
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[shootingwomprats]

I like the idea of a static number in this case. Its quick and efficient. As for modifiers for having certain items (sound dampeners, etc), why does one need to roll a random number of dice to give a modifier? Just tack on the modifier to the person roll to resist and it does what you want. Just seems like someone is crying because they have to hit a target number that its static not random. Boo-hoo buttercup.
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[CRMcNeill]

I think the decision between a flat modifier or a dice value should be dictated by what you are trying to represent. A dice value represents the presence of random factors beyond the character's control. In this case, a dice roll might represent things like targeted characters ending up in dead zones or random terrain confluences that either protect them from the brunt of the effect or concentrate it on them. If you feel this weapon would not be subject to such things, then a flat modifier would be more appropriate.
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[garhkal]

[CRMcNeill]

Of the two, I'd go with a flat modifier for protection, but only because I can't conceive of specific ways in which sensory protective equipment could be circumvented under the scenario described.
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[garhkal]

OK.. so what 'value' wouold go for 'sound dampning helmets?
Flash resistant goggles?
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[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]

I can't remember if any of the armors mention it in the arms and equipment section of the 'complete PDF of gear", but i do remember in one of the novels, han having 'flash suppression goggles' but their suppression also blinded him for a few rounds till it cleared..
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[CRMcNeill]

[garhkal]

IIRC it was the first novel in the Corellian Trilogy, near the end.
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