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DirkCorman
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 Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:40 pm Post subject: Sexuality in a Star Wars scenario |
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With the announcement of a lesbian character in the soon to be published novel 'Lords of the Sith', how do my fellow Rancors GM a gay, lesbian or bisexual relationship?
Myself, I've only done it once, but it was done with a lot of care and sensitivity.
I've got a character I'm uploading soon who is bisexual and not afraid of using her sexuality to get what she wants, she is a Dark Jedi though.. |
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Whill
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Sexuality in a Star Wars scenario |
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| DirkCorman wrote: | | Sexuality in a Star Wars scenario |
When I first read this thread topic, the first thing that popped into my head was when a 16 year-old player whose PC was based at Hoth tried to seduce Leia because he wanted to take her virginity before Han did, lol.
But now I see that this thread isn't asking about sexuality in general. It is specifically about homosexuality.
| DirkCorman wrote: | | With the announcement of a lesbian character in the soon to be published novel 'Lords of the Sith' |
I had missed that announcement about the lesbian Moff. And I just now found about Karen Traviss creating male married Mandalorians, but the web pages I just read didn't mention the A.C. Crispin's Sarn Shild, the gay Moff in The Hutt Gambit (1997).
| DirkCorman wrote: | how do my fellow Rancors GM a gay, lesbian or bisexual relationship?
Myself, I've only done it once, but it was done with a lot of care and sensitivity. |
I handle homosexuality and bisexuality the same exact way I handle heterosexuality and xenosexuality: subtly with innuendo, whenever sexuality of any kind rarely even enters my game. It's really just a genre/style content thing. I don't approve of real world profanity in my game (outside of the minor words that is in the films like hell and damn), but it's not that my players and I are offended by profanity.
I've never felt I had to handle any sexuality with a lot of care and sensitivity. I can only remember ever having one or two players who I knew or strongly suspected were homophobic, and they only played in a few adventures where sexuality didn't come up.
This hasn't happened yet, but if I ever had a player that wanted to play a homosexual or bisexual character because it was a significant aspect of his character concept, I doubt I would have any issue with it as long it remained a subtle aspect of the game, the same as any sexuality. If another player had a problem with a homosexual or bisexual character concept that the player and I approved for the game, then I would probably tell the other player to deal with it or leave. What century is this? I've got no use for bigotry in my life, even at the game table.
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cheshire
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Strangely, sexuality hasn't much appeared at the table very often. Either players or characters. I mean, we know that we have our personal lives, and that sexual orientation is a part of it, but it isn't usually a major talking point at the table.
We have players that are gay or lesbian, though I've never thought it important enough to find out whether their characters are. As I said, sexuality doesn't really enter the game much at all. There are no romantic ties that connect our players (this was actually an important thing to me, that I was actually playing my wife's character's younger brother, and not a romantic partner). And there are few romantic ties to NPCs.
Sexuality has been present in other games, though it is all by back story and innuendo. There's never been anything explicit such as, "I seduce the priestess." (To quote Gamers: Dorkness Rising)
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DirkCorman
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I was just seeing what you thought..
I think that now, I would let things happen between characters without any pushing. |
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garhkal
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It has been rare to crop up, but when it has, many players i have found, don't really mind. Such as when, during one mod where we had to infiltrate an Imperial prison (as prisoners) and break someone out, i had to 'take one for the team' and seduce a Gay Gamoorrean, to get intel we needed. Or when one of our male players who has a Female PC had to seduce the wife of a Moff.
Some even Ham it up to make it more funny/enjoyable.
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Bobmalooga
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This has come up more than a few of times in my games over the years, the most memorable few are the following...
1.) To get the information and supplies needed a rebel pilot agreed (quite willingly I might add...) to engage in 'relations' with Durga the hutt.
2.) During an undercover assignment one of the players took the cover ident of famed 'adult holovid star: Horatio Horneblower', complete with him wearing gold short shorts, roller skates blowing a whistle and attending a Hutt held rave...
3.) Then there was the time that the gambler, along with the group gun bunny (a Mantoloin, Rocket Raccoon type of character...) had to engage in 'relations' with a gamoorrean who was the only one who could get them the clearance codes to leave the planetary lockdown. They came out of it smelling like wet bacon and the gambler (a human...) had hickey snout marks on his neck...
Keith...LOL
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| Whill wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | Such as when, during one mod where we had to infiltrate an Imperial prison (as prisoners) and break someone out, i had to 'take one for the team' and seduce a Gay Gamoorrean, to get intel we needed. |
That's hilarious. |
Initially i was hesitant, but having seen some of the strange stuff others got into, i said "what the heck".
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| garhkal wrote: | i had to 'take one for the team' and seduce a Gay Gamoorrean, to get intel we needed. Or when one of our male players who has a Female PC had to seduce the wife of a Moff.
Some even Ham it up to make it more funny/enjoyable. |
I see what you did there.
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Glad you caught it. 
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| Wait, how can a gamoorrean have any sort of intel, they arn't known for being the brightest light in the bunch so who would trust them with anything other than bashing their heads against a wall. |
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| Thx1138 wrote: | | Wait, how can a gamoorrean have any sort of intel, they arn't known for being the brightest light in the bunch so who would trust them with anything other than bashing their heads against a wall. |
Not every Scout is Laconic...not ever Gamoorrean is dumb...
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Sexuality in a Star Wars scenario |
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| Whill wrote: |
I handle homosexuality and bisexuality the same exact way I handle heterosexuality and xenosexuality: subtly with innuendo, whenever sexuality of any kind rarely even enters my game. It's really just a genre/style content thing. I don't approve of real world profanity in my game (outside of the minor words that is in the films like hell and d*mn), but it's not that my players and I are offended by profanity.
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I think Whil hit it on the nail. The problem with peoples' perception of homosexuality is that they immediately jump mentally to sex acts. People skip the subtler aspects of homosexual romance such as simple hand holding, cuddling and simple kisses.
Basically if Han and Leia can say that they love each other, hold hands, share an on screen kiss. I suppose one way to imagine a homosexual alternative is if Han kissed Luke instead!
That all said, it really isn't all that difficult to GM or for anyone older than 14 to handle.
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Sexuality in a Star Wars scenario |
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| TheDoctor wrote: |
People skip the subtler aspects of homosexual romance such as simple hand holding, cuddling and simple kisses.
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Or even the more subtle aspects such as companionship and loyalty. These could be a far more important factor in a rpg setting then physical contact. |
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| Thx1138 wrote: | | Wait, how can a gamoorrean have any sort of intel, they arn't known for being the brightest light in the bunch so who would trust them with anything other than bashing their heads against a wall. |
Gamorrean knowledge maxes out at 2D, so a smart one is like an average human, however I have met plenty of average people doing jobs we assume require a high degree of intelligence. Sometimes being where you are supposed to be and putting in the hours can get the job done.
"Reputation: Gamorreans are widely regarded as primitive, brutal and mindless. Gamorreans who attempt to show intelligent thought and manners will often be disregarded and ridiculed by fellow Gamorreans."
It's more about how they would be treated by their fellow Gamorrean's and their interstellar reputation.
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