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Savar
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At a young age showing an aptitude in technology he was groomed to be the next generation of engineers at Sienar Systems. While working on his internship, he was kidnapped. He managed to escape, but by that time there was wanted posters for him. He managed by luck more than anything to escape. He is trying to find his way in this big galaxy.
Race: Human
Sex: male
Dexterity 3D
Knowledge 3D
- Bureaucracy 4D
- Scholar (Space transports) 4D
- Scholar (Starfighters) 4D
Mechanical 3D
Perception 3D
Strength 2D
Technical 4D
- Starfighters repair 5D
- (A)Starfighter engineering 2D
Move: 10
Force sensitive: no
Force points: 1
Dark side points: 0
Character points: 5
Equipment: lab coat, trench coat, coveralls, multi tool. |
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Kytross
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:58 am Post subject: |
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(A)Engineering is the skill, Starfighter Engineering would be a specialization.
(A) Engineering is covered in the supplement Hideouts and Strongholds.
Again, Scholar is the skill, those would be specializations. |
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Savar
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Kytross wrote: | (A)Engineering is the skill, Starfighter Engineering would be a specialization.
(A) Engineering is covered in the supplement Hideouts and Strongholds.
Again, Scholar is the skill, those would be specializations. |
Thank you for the pointer on scholar!
Check out pg29, advanced skills in R&E With the engineering point. |
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Savar
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Dexterity 3D
Knowledge 3D
- Bureaucracy 4D
- Scholar 4D
Mechanical 3D
Perception 3D
Strength 2D
Technical 4D
- Space transports repair 5D
- (A) Space transports engineering 1D
- Starfighters repair 5D
- (A) Starfighter engineering 2D |
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garhkal
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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With only a 2d in Str and not one lick of streetwise, or any combat skill, he is gonna suck real BAD if and when those bounty hunters show up!
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Savar
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| garhkal wrote: | | With only a 2d in Str and not one lick of streetwise, or any combat skill, he is gonna suck real BAD if and when those bounty hunters show up! |
Yup, a sheltered, unequipped, target.
Defiantly flawed.
That was the point. |
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garhkal
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In that case you did well!
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Kytross
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I think you mean page 29. Page 92 is about throwing grenades, useful, but irrelevant.
The only RAW indepth discussion on (A) Engineering is in Stongholds & Hideouts. |
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Savar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Kytross wrote: | I think you mean page 29. Page 92 is about throwing grenades, useful, but irrelevant.
The only RAW indepth discussion on (A) Engineering is in Stongholds & Hideouts. |
Okay that is confusing! The description says specialization. Gives no prerequisite for the base skill only for "specializations". Every set of char stats i have read shows no engineering skill, only specializations. |
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Savar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Dexterity 3D
Knowledge 3D
- Bureaucracy 4D
- Scholar 4D
Mechanical 3D
Perception 3D
Strength 2D
Technical 4D
- Space transports repair 5D
- (A) Engineering: Space transports 1D
- Starfighters repair 5D
- (A) Engineering: Starfighter 1D
- Starship weapons 1D |
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cynanbloodbane
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Best I can tell the [(A)Engineering (S)insert type of engineering] is treated as an (A) skill, in all respects except for initial purchase D allocation.
1-You need to meet the prerequisite skill of 5D.
2-You may not raise the (A-s) skill above 2D at creation.
3-You pay 1 pip=1D specialization skill cost at creation.
4-You earn additional skill D via CP & time as an (A) skill.
5-To take the (A) Engineering skill, not just one of the specializations you would need to have 5D in all repair skills.
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garhkal
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Savar wrote: | | Kytross wrote: | I think you mean page 29. Page 92 is about throwing grenades, useful, but irrelevant.
The only RAW indepth discussion on (A) Engineering is in Stongholds & Hideouts. |
Okay that is confusing! The description says specialization. Gives no prerequisite for the base skill only for "specializations". Every set of char stats i have read shows no engineering skill, only specializations. |
That's cause very few characters even in the galaxy guides HAVE an (A) skill, let alone engineering. And even FEWER templates have them starting out.
I think it was generally assumed all the way from the 1e days that (A) skills were things you picked up IN Game, not started with.
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Savar
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| garhkal wrote: | | Savar wrote: | | Kytross wrote: | I think you mean page 29. Page 92 is about throwing grenades, useful, but irrelevant.
The only RAW indepth discussion on (A) Engineering is in Stongholds & Hideouts. |
Okay that is confusing! The description says specialization. Gives no prerequisite for the base skill only for "specializations". Every set of char stats i have read shows no engineering skill, only specializations. |
That's cause very few characters even in the galaxy guides HAVE an (A) skill, let alone engineering. And even FEWER templates have them starting out.
I think it was generally assumed all the way from the 1e days that (A) skills were things you picked up IN Game, not started with. |
Lol, RAI vs RAW, the language over the advanced skill section is clear. Now in truth unless the campaign went for a long time i do not see getting A skills even in game play normally with the cp cost and time cost. RAI might have been for NPCs. |
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Raven Redstar
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In the original R&E book, they say this at the end of the Advanced Skill section Page 29 right column:
| Quote: | If you don't place beginning skill dice in an advanced skill,
cross it off the template. |
Meaning that they did intend for player characters to be able to start with advanced skills, so long as they adhere to the requirements.
Also, earlier in the section Page 29 Left column:
| Quote: | A character may have an advanced skill listed on the template. If your character meets the "prerequisite skills" requirement, you may put beginning skill dice in the advanced skill.
(Check the skill's description in "Attributes and Skills" to find the prerequisite skills; you will probably have to put some of your beginning skill dice in the prerequisite skills.) |
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| Savar wrote: |
Lol, RAI vs RAW, the language over the advanced skill section is clear. Now in truth unless the campaign went for a long time i do not see getting A skills even in game play normally with the cp cost and time cost. RAI might have been for NPCs. |
RAI?
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