| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
shootingwomprats
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Sep 2013
Posts: 2690
Location: Online
|
 Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:53 am Post subject: 614-AvA Speeder bike (Star Wars Rebels) |
 |
|
| Quote: |
614-AvA Speeder bike
Also known as an Imperial Speeder Bike, is a series of speeder bikes used by the Galactic Empire. Piloted by Imperial Combat Drivers, these speeder bikes are armed with twin laser cannons located at the front and work alongside All Terrain Defense Pod walkers and TIE Fighters to form a high-speed strike force, cutting down escaping rebels.
Speeder Bikes are ideal for long-distance scouting missions and patrolling large areas with minimal use of fuel or personnel. More nimble than Troop Transports, they allow Stormtroopers to survey difficult terrain or chase after fleeing suspects. It could also tow up to two crates.
614-AvA Speeder Bike
Craft: Aratech Repulsor Company 614-AvA Speeder Bike
Type: Military speeder
Scale: Speeder
Length: 3.98 meters
Skill: Repuslorlift ops: 614-AvA
Crew: 1
Cargo Capacity: 3 kilograms
Cover: 1/4
Altitude Range: Ground level to 10 meters
Cost: 3,500 (new); 1,200 (used)
Maneuverability: 4D
Move: 165 ;375 km/h
Body Strength: 1D+2
Weapons:
Twin Laser Cannon (fire-linked)
-- Fire Arc: Front
-- Skill: Vehicle blasters
-- Fire Control: 2D
-- Range: 3-50/100/200
-- Damage: 3D
Source: Star Wars Rebels "Spark of Rebellion", stats by +Oliver Queen
|
Edit:
1. Changed Maneuverability to 4D instead of 3D+2 as its supposed to me more maneuverable than the 74-Z.
| Quote: |
Repulsor Cargo Crate (small)
Model: Moev Model III Repuslor Cargo Crate
Type: cargo Crate
Scale: Speeder
Length: 1 meter square
Cargo Capacity: 100 kilograms
Altitude Range: Ground level to 10 meters
Cost: 450 (new); 225 (used)
Body Strength: 2D
Source: Star Wars Rebels "Spark of Rebellion", stats by +Oliver Queen
|
_________________
Don Diestler
Host, Shooting Womp Rats
The D6 Podcast
http://d6holocron.com/shootingwomprats
@swd6podcast, Twitter
Last edited by shootingwomprats on Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
garhkal
Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 14174
Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:23 pm Post subject: |
|
|
How do they compare to the ones we saw used by the troopers in Return of the Jedi?
_________________
Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shootingwomprats
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Sep 2013
Posts: 2690
Location: Online
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:09 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| garhkal wrote: | | How do they compare to the ones we saw used by the troopers in Return of the Jedi? |
This one faster and does not have armor so its Hull Strength is lower. Otherwise they are quite comparable.
_________________
Don Diestler
Host, Shooting Womp Rats
The D6 Podcast
http://d6holocron.com/shootingwomprats
@swd6podcast, Twitter |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zarn
Force Spirit
Joined: 17 Jun 2014
Posts: 698
|
| Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:57 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Are you sure about that? The Aratech 74-Z is stated on Wookieepedia as, "hey were capable of reaching speeds up to and beyond five hundred kilometers per hour, and had a flight ceiling of twenty-five meters. 74-Zs were the military variant of the civilian 74-Y. They were controlled by handlebars located towards the front of the vehicle, and foot pedals slung underneath adjusted speed and altitude."
The holocron has it as Move: 175; 500 kmh. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
garhkal
Sovereign Protector
Joined: 17 Jul 2005
Posts: 14174
Location: Reynoldsburg, Columbus, Ohio.
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| shootingwomprats wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | How do they compare to the ones we saw used by the troopers in Return of the Jedi? |
This one faster and does not have armor so its Hull Strength is lower. Otherwise they are quite comparable. |
So why would the imperial military have gotten rid of this one in favor of the ones used on endor??
_________________
Confucious sayeth, don't wash cat while drunk! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shootingwomprats
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Sep 2013
Posts: 2690
Location: Online
|
| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2015 7:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| garhkal wrote: | | So why would the imperial military have gotten rid of this one in favor of the ones used on endor?? |
There are designed for completely different things. The 74-Z is a military grade scout vehicle. Sturdy and well armored. The 614-AvA is a much lighter version, which is more maneuverable, faster, but lacks the sturdiness of the 74-Z. Its purpose is high-speed transportation and movement of light cargo. As well as a light patrol or scout vehicle.
Again similar vehicles with some crossover use, but designed for very different purposes.
_________________
Don Diestler
Host, Shooting Womp Rats
The D6 Podcast
http://d6holocron.com/shootingwomprats
@swd6podcast, Twitter |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zarn
Force Spirit
Joined: 17 Jun 2014
Posts: 698
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| shootingwomprats wrote: |
There are designed for completely different things. The 74-Z is a military grade scout vehicle. Sturdy and well armored. The 614-AvA is a much lighter version, which is more maneuverable, faster, but lacks the sturdiness of the 74-Z. Its purpose is high-speed transportation and movement of light cargo. As well as a light patrol or scout vehicle.
Again similar vehicles with some crossover use, but designed for very different purposes. |
But you're wrong, I'm afraid. The 74-Z is rated for 175 move / 500 kmh. Your 614-AvA is rated for 165 move / 375 kmh. Tell me again how the 614-Ava is 'more maneuverable, faster, but lacks the sturdiness of the 74-Z'. I even gave a quote previously, but if you're not going to give me the courtesy of reading what I wrote, then I can't be bothered with linking my sources. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bobmalooga
Commander
Joined: 13 Sep 2010
Posts: 367
Location: The south...
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:53 am Post subject: |
|
|
| garhkal wrote: | | shootingwomprats wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | | How do they compare to the ones we saw used by the troopers in Return of the Jedi? |
This one faster and does not have armor so its Hull Strength is lower. Otherwise they are quite comparable. |
So why would the imperial military have gotten rid of this one in favor of the ones used on endor?? |
Who said they did? For all we know the ones that were on Endor were designed more for Rural travel than the ones in Rebels which are being used for cargo transportation...Unlike in the real world where most cop cars used to be a souped up Ford Taurus, the Empire cherry picks what it wants from the best designs.
The Real reason you've never seen them before (beyond the fact that Lucas never had any of this planned...) comes from the fact that they never appeared before now and were created from "an early illustration by concept artist Joe Johnston in 1979"
_________________
No matter where you go, there you are... |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shootingwomprats
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Sep 2013
Posts: 2690
Location: Online
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 12:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Zarn wrote: | | But you're wrong, I'm afraid. The 74-Z is rated for 175 move / 500 kmh. Your 614-AvA is rated for 165 move / 375 kmh. |
I misread something when I initially did the conversion, thinking it was referring to the 74-Z when in fact is was referring to "More nimble than Troop Transports ..." So probably as maneuverable, not more maneuverable than the 74-Z. I will make the adjustment.
| Quote: | | Tell me again how the 614-Ava is 'more maneuverable, faster, but lacks the sturdiness of the 74-Z'. |
I tried to find the the quote referencing that the 611-AvA was not as sturdy as the 74-Z but could not. Could have sworn I had read it, but ... cannot find where. I know I did some inference as well. If you compare the two side-by-side the 74-Z is much "beefier" in appearance. Even if I cannot find a direct quote it makes sense.
Thank you for your suggestions. It made me go back and look at the information again. If nothing more than correct the fluff and to set things right in my own mind. Its appreciated.
| Quote: | | I even gave a quote previously, but if you're not going to give me the courtesy of reading what I wrote, then I can't be bothered with linking my sources. |
Okay now that the game mechanics part has been addressed let us address your rudeness.
I did not intentionally ignore your post. In fact I did not even know you had posted. I am not sure how I missed it, but the why of it really doesn't matter. I would encourage you to have a little more patience when dealing with forum postings. This is not live chat and communication takes a little more time.
I would also encourage you take a let combative tone when making suggestions or asking questions. I do not know you and this is a hobby. I do not get paid nor do I owe you or anyone an explanation. In the future kindly do not address me as though your my boss, employed by the forum or that I will take your abrasive abuse.
Everyone has bad days and perhaps you suffered from one or several over the time period of your posts which would explain your crass behavior. I am willing to chalk it up to that or just a misunderstanding.
_________________
Don Diestler
Host, Shooting Womp Rats
The D6 Podcast
http://d6holocron.com/shootingwomprats
@swd6podcast, Twitter |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zarn
Force Spirit
Joined: 17 Jun 2014
Posts: 698
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| You're right. I do so hate being (apparently) ignored that it is a bit of a hot button topic for me. I won't bother this forum again. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
shootingwomprats
Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Sep 2013
Posts: 2690
Location: Online
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Zarn wrote: | | You're right. I do so hate being (apparently) ignored that it is a bit of a hot button topic for me. I won't bother this forum again. |
I think your not understanding what I am saying nor the shortcoming of the medium we are using. If you want to throw a tantrum because things are not exactly the way you want them, not immediately gratified and/or unwilling to make some adjustments on your end to make allowances for that or adjust your expectations, then yeah, maybe you should just not post or comment.
_________________
Don Diestler
Host, Shooting Womp Rats
The D6 Podcast
http://d6holocron.com/shootingwomprats
@swd6podcast, Twitter |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cheshire
Arbiter-General (Moderator)
Joined: 04 Jan 2004
Posts: 4850
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Okay, everyone, I think we need to take a few deep breaths here.
I don't think this is something we need to take personally or escalate to any greater degree.
We're leaving the thread open for now, but let's try to engage on the topic of the speeders, or not reply at all.
_________________
__________________________________
Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Thx1138
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 03 Feb 2015
Posts: 182
Location: Where ever the Force takes me
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| The 74-Z is a one that is most likely deployed into combat zones while the rebels one is used in areas that are secured or imperial territory. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
