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The Cost of Consumables for Ships.
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tetsuoh
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2015 5:06 pm    Post subject: The Cost of Consumables for Ships. Reply with quote

Okay so this has been bugging me greatly.

So on an average day a character spends 15 credits on 3 meals of crappy quality.

http://www.starwarsepics.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=1210

YET - the per day Consumables cost of a Passenger is only 10-35 credits?

And that is supposed to cover food,drink,fuel,minor repairs,filter replacements, and other necessities?

Seems off doesn't it?

Now I understand that in Tramp Freighters it states that this doesn't cover
luxury goods such as fresh food stuffs. But even if the meals were just autochef trash proteins that is still 15 credits at least.

I'm thinking restocking should cost more like 20-45 or even 30-55 credits per day per passenger.

I can see it costing 10 if the actual passenger meals were not included in this however.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody?

Still looking for input as to if anyone else feels the same.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a difference between the service Meal, Poor, and a Consumables cost.

If I go to McDonald's, I can buy a Big Mac or something. I then pay a price for that. Or, I could go to a convenience store, buy burger patties (perhaps in bulk), buy buns, buy some Kraft 'cheese', and so on - and then make the burger myself.

The consumables cost is in my opinion raw goods cost. Often bought in bulk, so as to drive cost even further down. Perhaps I've bought a droid which prepares my food.

The services cost is the cost if I bought the end product. The difference is, essentially, how you make money in the burger joint (to continue that example).

That, and the soda markup.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And name brand markup.
But i agree. The lower cost for food in consumables, is cause you are getting ti in bulk and making it yourself (or autochef 2000 does)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's all about markup, the classic example is bottled water.

You can buy a bottle of water at a convenience store for about $2-$3 a liter. But you can fill up a gallon container for 50 cents at some places. And it's much less if you have access to a water main.

$10 can get you a lot more (of the same kind of) food in a supermarket then at a restaurant. And even more if you can buy in bulk at a place like BJs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zarn wrote:
The consumables cost is in my opinion raw goods cost. Often bought in bulk, so as to drive cost even further down. Perhaps I've bought a droid which prepares my food.


If you've ever worked in a soup kitchen or school cafeteria, you'd have even more evidence. In NY we could crank out enough buttered pasta and canned vegetables and chocolate pudding for 400 pretty quickly, and that stuff couldn't have cost very much even if they had paid for it at Costco (or wherever in NJ one would have bought such things in the 90s). Veterans (garkh!) might know something about #10 cans too.

I was never a fan of baloney, but after making a zillion baloney sandwiches on white bread with nacho cheese goop spread on it... Shocked never again. But the pasta and chili weren't too bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus, you can buy a 50 lb bag of rice, cans of beans in bulk, and spices to suit your taste. Then, although one gets sick of having the same meal all the time, you have sustenance you can count on, and you have a LOT of it.

Although I detest MSG (as would ANYONE if they actually saw how it's made), I absolutely LOVE ramen soup, and at one point bought it in bulk. Maruchan Ramen soup is UBER cheap, and you can buy a crap ton of it for a very small amount. These days I'm more conscientious about many of the foods I buy, and would look for ramen made without MSG, but I'd definitely buy a lot of it. Not only is it cheap, it's insanely easy to prepare.

So there are a number of factors that logically would drive the cost of provisions down. As a GM, if you're intent on bothering with this issue (which many are not), you could always increase the cost of fresh food, because that's how it works in real life. You can, of course, buy frozen vegetables and such, which is the next best thing to fresh, and it extends the shelf-life of your purchase, not to mention being a bit cheaper. And, you can buy that more safely in bulk, which allows you to remain in space longer without re-provisioning...something critically important when you're running around space, performing guerrilla warfare against the Empire, needing to do a hit and fade, and be able to run a circuitous route through hyperspace, possibly for an extended time, in order to outrun them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bepp

Nothing cheaper than bepp.
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