Scale Difference with Starship Weapons

[DougRed4]

During our session last weekend, I tried out crmcneill's new scale system (and really liked it).

The problems that come up with different scale weapons from the ship they're aboard opened up all sorts of cans of worms, though. We're assuming that most of the weapons mounted on our capital ship are starfighter-scale, especially since they were purchased using the rules set forth in "Tramp Freighters" (which seems to be dealing with light freighters).

And adding in a 'Starship' class leads to the question of what skill characters use when they fire weapons from it? According to 2R&E, Capital Ship Gunnery is used for capital-scale weapons, and Starship Gunnery is the skill used for starfighter-scale ones, even when they're mounted on capital ships.

It's not helped by the inconsistency shown in the various WEG products. For instance, I was using a 'Pirate Corvette' that we're given in "Instant Adventures". The cards that came with that supplement list it as a "starfighter", yet the length of the ship is 180 meters long!
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[wildfire]

Been using a similar scale system (modified from crmcneill's system) and have just used Capital Ship Gunnery for anything bigger than Starfighter.

Rather than adding two new skills as they could just be seen as ways to drain character points, the other part of my reasoning is the new weapons are all based on capital weapons so have very similar modes of operation and therefore should be able to be covered by the same skill.

Might consider offer specialization in each scale of weapons but not sure about it yet.

[CRMcNeill]

[Lane Arroway]

DougRed4 Wrote:

[DougRed4]

Yeah, but that's still HUMONGOUS when comparing to starfighters like a Y-wing, which is less than 1/10th its length!

I like the addition of a new 'Starship' class, as crmcneill has done, as it is perfect for these in-between ships.

I'm not keen to add new Skills, if I can help it. I think I'll try to fit most under Starship Gunnery, and keep Capital-scale weapons to the big banks of turbolasers and ion cannons ones sees (for instance) on a Star Destroyer.
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[CRMcNeill]

With a 4D Scale modifier, converting it over to Starship scale results in 6D Maneuverability, a 1D+1 Hull and Shields of -1D. In a way, its kind of a borderline ship with regards to scale, much like the Gamma and the Skipray.
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[garhkal]

How's about keep its hull/shields/man as is, but just give it a diff scale?
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[DougRed4]

That's what I did, garhkal. Kept all the stats as is, but changed its scale to Starship. I honestly never even considered adjusting the stats, too.
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[hongxiquan]

For this whole capital gun on a starfighter scale ship, isn't the best option to run a capital ship class ion cannon then run a stunlock scenario on a larger capital ship, or shut down specific subsystems (like maybe shields) to help out other ships attacking the dude?