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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:20 am    Post subject: what is "soak" Reply with quote

I have been seeing this term "soak" that I have never seen this term in any star wars or any other RPG. where is does this come from and what does this term encapsulate.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its commonly used in place of your damage resistance (str/hull/vehicle body) roll when someone gets hit. You 'Soak' the damage.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure of its origins, but its a term used in the White Wolf rpgs such as Vampire the Masquerade and Werewolf the Apocalypse.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lane Arroway wrote:
Not sure of its origins, but its a term used in the White Wolf rpgs such as Vampire the Masquerade and Werewolf the Apocalypse.


What he said.

Anyone who has played White Wolf RPGs probably uses the term whenever you they make an opposed toll to resist damage

GM "You got hit, 21 damage, roll to soak !!"

"soak" being shorter and easier to say "resist damage"

White Wolfs Vampire and Werewolf being role playing games that were also popular during the same era WEG's Star Wars.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the current game I adopted the term from was Savage Worlds.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lane has it right.. As per this site it was first coined by the 1e vampire system.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Centinull wrote:
Lane Arroway wrote:
Not sure of its origins, but its a term used in the White Wolf rpgs such as Vampire the Masquerade and Werewolf the Apocalypse.


What he said.

Anyone who has played White Wolf RPGs probably uses the term whenever you they make an opposed toll to resist damage

GM "You got hit, 21 damage, roll to soak !!"

"soak" being shorter and easier to say "resist damage"

White Wolfs Vampire and Werewolf being role playing games that were also popular during the same era WEG's Star Wars.


You nailed it. Except that WoD is still quite alive and well. They are still releasing new stuff for nWoD and they are also rereleasing older stuff in a very nice 25th Anniversary format.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man it has been so long since i had a decent WoD game.. But i remember using the term soak for so long, with SW, i can't remember if i used it there first or in WoD..
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's in the new Edge of the Empire rules.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jame Rowe wrote:
I know it's in the new Edge of the Empire rules.

No kidding, they are using the term in the new Game system?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lane Arroway wrote:
Not sure of its origins, but its a term used in the White Wolf rpgs such as Vampire the Masquerade and Werewolf the Apocalypse.


I think it originated in Ars Magica. In that RPG characters resisted damage with their Soak roll. The folks behind Ars Magica, a company called Lion Rampant eventually turned into White Wolf and the term was ported over to their World of Darkness RPG line.

As far as the term being used here, I suspect I had a hand in that. Being familar with multiple RPGs, including Ars Magica and the WoD line, I probably used Soak in place of the STR or Body STR, or Hull roll to resist damage, as soak is easier to type and can apply to characters, vehicles and ships.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've used the term "soak" forever, also. Not sure who introduced me to the term... Probably one of my first GMs who had played everything under the sun by the time I started. "Soak" translates to "Near-Hit" in our games now days...
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