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Kytross
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 Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Unlisted Skills |
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If the player is excited about using the skill then I work it into the story. Otherwise it never gets used. Pick an appropriate attribute go shove it under. Culinary arts would be under dex or mec. Maybe Technical. Probably tech now that I'm thinking about it.
Heck, I gave a playera free 2D in something useless to gameplay because it was part of their background and they were super excited about it. Underwater basketweaving or somesuch that they had done their thesis on.
Half the GM's job is keeping the player happy.
| DougRed4 wrote: | What do you do when you come across Skills that aren't normally listed?
I'm constructing a servant droid for one of my PCs, and - taking things straight out of Cynabar's Fantastic Technology Droids - it says it has"
Culinary arts 4D
I was thinking of making it a specialization of Scholar, but in the rules Scholar is really head knowledge, not actual experience (so not really fitting here).
So are there occasional other Skills like this that are fairly uncommon, so that's why they're not listed on everybody's character sheet? |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Unlisted Skills |
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| Kytross wrote: | | Half the GM's job is keeping the player happy. |
The other half is keeping their characters unhappy! |
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garhkal
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This brings up a related q..
When they roll for certain skills, do you require other rolls before hand?
Such as say they are meeting with the Bidgsdigo of alien culture XYZ. And are attempting to con them. Do you have them roll cultures first to see what they know of that group before they do the con?
What of alien species before first aid?
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It helps to check and see if the characters know that the species they are trying to con sees deceptive trickery as a moral affront punishable by death.
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garhkal
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Partially why i brought it up.
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| garhkal wrote: | This brings up a related q..
When they roll for certain skills, do you require other rolls before hand?
Such as say they are meeting with the Bidgsdigo of alien culture XYZ. And are attempting to con them. Do you have them roll cultures first to see what they know of that group before they do the con?
What of alien species before first aid? |
This is the thing about knowledge skills. If it's something that the character might know then it seems it would only make sense if it automatically triggered the skill roll ahead of time.
Knowledge is many times passive in its operation, even if active in the acquisition. In that respect I find it unlike many other skills. Though it is probable that a player would plan to rig a security door to secure behind them, and then would forget to have the character do that. Later they might say, "Oh, man I can't believe I forgot to secure the door." By contrast, if a player doesn't know anything about the cultures, but the character does, it isn't like they would come to the end of the encounter and say, "Oh man, I can't believe I forgot to know that!" Certainly it may slip the character's mind, or they might have skimped on that bit of their research, but that would be a product of a mishap on their roll whether it be failing to hit the difficulty number or rolling a 1 on the Wild Die.
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Kytross
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I don't tend to prompt knowledge rolls unless the player asks me if they'd know something or they start assuming things that aren't true.
However, if someone does roll a knowledge skill first, without being prompted, you can bet your bottom credit that they'll be getting some bonus character points from this stingy GM. |
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| garhkal wrote: | This brings up a related q..
When they roll for certain skills, do you require other rolls before hand?
Such as say they are meeting with the Bidgsdigo of alien culture XYZ. And are attempting to con them. Do you have them roll cultures first to see what they know of that group before they do the con?
What of alien species before first aid? |
For this I have adopted the "Forking in" rule from the Burning Wheel system. Basically, if you are making a skill roll, you can fork in additional relevant skills at +1D, but only if that skill has been advanced.
For example, a bounty hunter with 4D Streetwise and 5D Investigation is trying to find a fugitive in a gang-ridden slums. I would have him roll his investigation of 5D, but if he is smart, he may fork in his Streetwise for +1D, making the roll 6D.
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garhkal
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Sort of a synergy bonus..
Got a rundown of which skills would syn with others?
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| garhkal wrote: | Sort of a synergy bonus..
Got a rundown of which skills would syn with others? |
Whatever the players can make a good case for. It's usually the knowledges, like scholar, alien species, and streetwise that help with forking in.
Someone with a good droid repair might know how to best kill a droid and fork in a die to disable it.
Basically, if the player convinces me that it makes sense for the skill to be forked in, I will allow it.
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That reminds me of the "affinity bonus" one gets with Decipher's CODA system (Lord of the Rings and Star Trek RPGs). It makes a lot of sense!
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| Dromdarr_Alark wrote: | | garhkal wrote: | Sort of a synergy bonus..
Got a rundown of which skills would syn with others? |
Whatever the players can make a good case for. It's usually the knowledges, like scholar, alien species, and streetwise that help with forking in.
Someone with a good droid repair might know how to best kill a droid and fork in a die to disable it.
Basically, if the player convinces me that it makes sense for the skill to be forked in, I will allow it. |
How long do you give them to "Make their case" a minute. 3?
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| To reply to the original starting question under Tools->Sticky: FAN MADE SOURCEBOOKS on the first page scrolling down about 3 inches you will see Gry Sarth showing all the book he has made and the 4th or fifth book is Droid Stats check it out since it has cooking droids listed in there. Also I would consider Cullinary an Advanced Skill inside cooking skill. |
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I would consider the actual act of cooking to be a Technical skill, as Technical is something of a blend of Knowledge and Dexterity (in that you know how things fit together and have the physical skills to fit them together). However, research into recipes and ingredients and the like would fall under Scholar: Culinary Arts. Of course, the more knowledgeable one is about Culinary Arts, the more capable a Cook they will be, which is where this house rule comes into play.
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I left cooking under knowledge, but there is a mechanical skill household appliance operation. I think it was one of Aunt Beru's skills from the movie trilogy source book.
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