Optional Rules Resource

[shootingwomprats]

Has anyone compiled a list of the optional rules presented in the various "official" WEG books? I think this would be a very interesting project. Ideas, suggestions, volunteers?
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[Naaman]

Im not aware that this has been attempted but I would first want to be sure it wasn't an infringement of any kind before attempting it.

[cheshire]

The "infringement" issue is lessened of late. I've talked with Eric Gibson about using some optional rules and expanding on them for the D6 Magazine. He'd said that the rules and mechanics are open, even though the Star Wars IP is not.

The use of the rules isn't what would concern me about this project, but that it would constitute the entire work with no original work or commentary. However, the easy way around this is just to ask Eric Gibson for his blessing, and then everything is beyond question. He still owns WEG, and so it's his call.
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[Red 331]

[Red 331]

Daniel and Don - I might be able to provide some assistance with this. Also, just as a reminder, we started a thread on the Optional Rules a while back:
http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1803&highlight=optional


If it's possible to move forward with this effort - with Eric Gibson's ok if needed - I think this could be a great resource. Thanks for taking the initiative on this, Womp Rat folks!

[cheshire]

I went back through my interactions with Eric Gibson, and he'd said this concerning a Martial Arts ruleset I was re-working:

[DougRed4]

The main place I could see it being hard to avoid "Star Wars" teminology and lingo would be in reference to lightsabers and the Force.
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[TyCaine]

One thing to consider if anyone wants to compile the optional rules is that most have already been identified in the rulebooks indexes, which are available at the following URL:
http://www.4shared.com/zip/rCoMO6Y3/Korpil_SWD6_RPG_Index.html

The PDFs provide indexes of most of the books, including sorted by categories, and many books have a 'Rules' category which calls out the optional rules listed in that book with page numbers.

Half the work is already done to identify all of them, they would just need to be compiled...

Been considering doing this myself, truth be told...


T.C.
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[cheshire]

And here's another aspect I hadn't thought of. The rules are open, just the Star Wars IP is not. If we ask Eric's permission he's going to be legally obligated to say "no." He can't give permission to use the Star Wars IP. That belongs to Lucas. The rules are now open, so that's open. And the question is whether we fear LFL's lawyers. For me, I'm squarely in the "no I'm not" category. They tend to leave SW RPG folks alone so long as they're not selling things or producing software to match the latest iteration of the game.

And I know I'm the one who's dragging his heels on the project with legalspeak... but if we want to do it, just know that we should stop if (and this is really unlikely) that LFL gives the C&D (which they're pretty much not going to unless we take active steps to attract their attention).
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

[cheshire]

[TyCaine]

Actually, Cheshire, I thought it was you and I who grabbed the indexes and zipped them up during this thread:

http://www.rancorpit.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=132233#132233

I honestly haven't looked at the zip myself as I remembered us looking for them previous, found the thread, and found the link you had provided...



If, by chance, some are missing from that zip, I think I have all but 4 or 5 (those 4 or 5 kept going to 404s and I haven't been able to wayback machine them).

I'll take a look at the zip now and check it matches what I have. But yes, these have been a big help any time I've needed to track down a rule, or something I saw somewhere in the books...


[EDIT] - Just double-checked the zip and it has everything I have, which means it's only short the 4 or 5 pdfs that were unavailable.

T.C.
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[cheshire]

Ah... oh yes. That would explain why I have this duplicate file on my removable drive.
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Before we take any of this too seriously, just remember that in the middle episode a little rubber puppet moves a spaceship with his mind.

[TyCaine]

Don't worry, I can't remember what I had for dinner yesterday evening, let alone anything I did last week or further back.
What's interesting is that I can remember rules of RPGs more readily than anything else.

Getting old sucks.


T.C.
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[Whill]

I don't think I understand the legal concern here. We have lots of fan-made RPG-related PDFs chock full of Star Wars terminology available for free. Historically Lucasfilm has only gone after people trying to profit off Star Wars without a license to do so. I sincerely doubt that Disneyfilm will operate any differently. The internet world of Star Wars fandom is just simply too huge to bother with all the freely-shared fan material which could technically still be considered copyright infringement.

And we have a community standard of not posting links to or condoning the use of pirated officially published material. That may not even seem necessary for a long-out-of-print 90s RPG that is now TWO games ago, but I feel it is still a good best practice.

On top of everything we've already done, what could possibly be an issue with a mere optional rules compilation made by fans?
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[shootingwomprats]

Yeah this whole copyright thing has me confused. We are talking about a game 15 years dead.

No one seemed concerned when they were ripping WotC IP and converting them.

Besides this is not for profit, so I am very confused as to why people are all concerned. Unless it happens to be an issue over who gets credit, and that is even sillier.

Its a compilation of optional rules. All we would be doing is compiling them, and make it available in one spot, the book that is.

So all this "Oh no intellectual property rights", "Oh no I need permission", "oh no the sky is falling" is all plain silliness.

Seriously, this is the excuse people are going with to justify not doing the project?
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