Star Saber XC-01 (Old Republic Era)

[DougRed4]

Has anyone else used any of the stuff from the "Knights of the Old Republic Campaign Guide"?

Our Jedi is going to be attempting to restore his old Jedi starfighter that he was found (frozen) in. More or less the stats looks fine, but the damage done by its weapons seems a bit much to me.

Overall it's really fast (Space of 9), sturdy, not very maneuverable, and does a crapload of damage with its Heavy Blaster Cannons (6D), though that is at starfighter scale.

Does anybody else find that a bit high?

Here's the basic stats:

Star Saber XC-01

Craft: Republic Fleet Systems Star Saber XC-01
Affiliation: N/A
Era: Old Republic
Source: Power of the Jedi Sourcebook (pages 60-61)
Type: Starfighter
Scale: Starfighter
Length: 6.75 meters
Skill: Starfighter Piloting: Star Saber
Crew: 1
Passengers: None
Cargo Capacity: 25 kilograms
Consumables: 1 week
Cost: N/A
Hyperdrive Multiplier: x1.5
Nav Computer: Can store coordinates for 2 hyperspace jumps
Maneuverability: 1D+2
Space: 9
Atmosphere: 380; 1,100 kmh
Hull: 4D
Shields: 2D+1
Sensors:
Passive: 20/0D
Scan: 40/1D
Search: 60/2D
Focus: 3/4D
Weapons:
2 Heavy Blaster Cannons (fire-linked)
Fire Arc: Front
Skill: Starship Gunnery
Fire Control: 1D
Space Range: 1-5/10/17
Atmosphere Range: 100-500/1/1.7 km
Damage: 6D
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[Dromdarr_Alark]

I do find its stats to be a bit overpowered.

I think a fighter that is three and a half thousand years old should not be able to go toe to toe with an X-Wing.

It already has a high hull and shields score. I would pick one: high durability and low firepower, or low durability and high firepower.

The hyperdrive also seems a little fast for me, considering the Ebon Hawk has something like a x3 or x4.
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[Tupteq]

I agree with Dromdarr_Alark. I read Wookiepedia article about XC-01, there are notes about inconsistencies in sourcebooks. But anyways, to make it's stats more matching description (and era), I'd propose following changes:

Length: 13m (from Wookieepedia)
Cargo Capacity: 45 kg (from Wookieepedia)
Hyperdrive: x2 (from Wookieepedia)
Maneuverability: 0D+2 ("low maneuverability-to-speed ratio and slow control stick reaction gained them a reputation as dangerous and unwieldy craft")
Hull: 3D (hull value 2D-3D seemed to be average for ships from this era, additionally it's enlonged shape with thin wings doesn't look as tough as X-Wing)
Shields: 2D ("deflector shields gave the Star Saber more [...] defensive capabilities than contemporary fighters")
2 Heavy Blaster Cannons (fire-linked)
Damage: 4D+2 ("Heavy blaster cannons [...] gave the Star Saber more offensive [...] capabilities than contemporary fighters")

This way IMO it matches better the description. XC-01 was described as having many design flaws, in converted stats you used I don't see any flaws. I'm still not sure if these stats aren't still too high, but if I had player wanting to use it, I wouldn't lower them further.

[Barrataria]

Generally I think it's hard to use the stats from OR ships together with Empire era ships. I don't think that ship should be that fast. I've always assumed the tech progression during the Empire is akin to that in WWII. So I like to see obsolete ships look obsolete.

Also, wouldn't this use a hyperspace ring?
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[cheshire]

Here's the deal with the conversions, they are representations of what WotC has done in their games. Sometimes WotC overstepped things and made the stats way too powerful for what the tech was in the respective era. Most of that is fine when you're only playing with tech of the same era, but when you start pulling old tech into the New Republic Era, the dissonance is quite apparent.

My whole thing is to take the conversions and adjust them to fit your game. Does it look too high? Yeah. It does. So move the stats down a bit. The speed is a little high, the hyperdrive is really fast for that era, and the damage packs a punch. I'd nudge them down a bit. And it always leaves the opportunity for your Jedi to retrofit the ship to make it more competitive to contemporary era standards.
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[DougRed4]

Thanks so much, everyone! You've confirmed what I was thinking. And thanks a million for the detailed notes, Tupteq! I most definitely am going to ramp things downward, to make it better fit the era.

I also like the idea of giving it some design flaws, which should be fun (especially if there's two of them!)
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[DougRed4]

I ended up adjusting everything as per Tupteq's post, with the exception that I made the Maneuver 1D (never seen anything as low as 0D+2!)

[Panzerjedi]

Depends, in the Tales of the Jedi Period, things were very primitive, then as things progressed a few decades it jumped by leaps and bounds..... for upgrading your Player's jedi's ship I have the following table.. for the general mass/sophistication of parts installed...... note this works with The tramp frieghters Book and the Star Ships of the Galaxy conversions Chesh and Gry did......

[DougRed4]

That's a good point about the size (and likely the availability) of parts, when repairs are (inevitably) needed.

BTW, welcome, Panzerjedi!

FWIW, in addition to all the changes mentioned by Tupteq (above), I also decided to ramp down the Speed of the ship to 7.
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[Panzerjedi]

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